Comments for year 2002 |
Email / Date |
My name is Alan Lucy I sailed
on the mv Rangitata from Tilbury on 24/2/50 arriving
wellington28/3/50 I was a child migrant aged 14yrs and was sent to a
back country farm in Gisbourne within two days of reaching NZ but
every thing worked out ok I would love to hear from any one on that
same trip my email is
amaplucy@zfree.co.nz PS it was a wonderful voyage with
great food and service on a great ship it took me years to work out
why the odd! crew member had traces of make up on when serving
breakfast cheers: Alan Lucy |
amaplucy@zfree.co.nz
6.01.02
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Hi! my first 2 years at sea on
the best name on the kiwi coast 'SOMERSET'77-79. what memories,
where has the crowd gone to. I'm still swashing my buckle in the
north sea. good to mention the old girl. All the best lads and a few
lasses!! The Goon Pat Mccardle |
mccardles@btinternet.com
10.01.02
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While browsing on the net I
stumbled on to your site. I was an electrician with nzsc and did
three voyages on the mv Hinakura 1962-1963 and one on mv Otaki late
1963 I recall on the outward to nz the ship broke down every day
between London and Curacao a nightmare for the engineers. all the
engineers on this voyage were Jordies except myself and the chief
electrician who were Scots. The chief electricians name was Lachie
Henderson who was with nzsc and pando for many years and probably
was there until retirement age. I must admit I enjoyed this part of
my life and often wished I had stayed a little bit longer. Norrie
Cumming. |
cummingkt@aol.com
10.01.01
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Served with nzsc between 1966
-1971 and lost all photos would love to find some more on the
Pipiriki Derby Clark Mackswell |
raycarol@raycarol.freeserve.co.uk
12.01.02
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Hi my name is John Broughton I
am originally from Doncaster I now live in NZ. I joined
M.V.Gloucester as a.b.1964 to do a m.a.n.z. run with Dick Hodge.
bosun john hay, lampy Bob Heslop. Skipper Max Hellings. then
joined M.V Devon. Tekoa. bosun Tim O,leary took the Suffork to scrap
1968 also joined the Hurunui and came back d.b.s.on the Cumberland I
also joined the Paparoa in Liverpool my last shipping co ship was
the Westmoreland the skipper was Capt North also a m.a.n.z run hope
this is off some interested and may trigger a memory or too John
Broughton |
trish-john@xtra.co.nz
15.01.02
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Dear Sir, One article in your
shipping info, and to inform the source, is that the Shipping Corp
NZ was nothing to do with N.Z.S. I sailed on the Tue alias New
Zealand Pacific which was Blue Star. Shaw Savall port line all
together and Sir Tom Skinner as boss plus son Jeff not bad for job
for the boys ... bit of info john |
trish-john@xtra.co.nz
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Found this site by mistake. Have very few memories of my time on the
'Otaio' although I would like to dig them up wherever they are
hiding in my head. They must be there. Was on the 'Otaio' from
1971-72 as a navigation cadet. Danny Meadows |
chiara.dario@virgin.net
20.01.02
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Hi Sorry, I do not have any
info for you. I am looking for information re the MV Kaimata. My
father sailed on her during WWII and I would like to learn some more
about her, especially any photos of her. Can you help, or point me
in the right direction? Many thanks Essex Havard |
Essex_Havard@rnli.org.uk
21.01.02
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Please could you send me to a
website that would give me some details about the sinking of the
Rangitane in 1940. My late uncle, James Hunt, served as a steward on
that ship. Any information, however little, would be greatly
appreciated. Patrick Hunt Irish Independent Dublin |
pathunt@indigo.ie
22.01.02
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Very interesting site which I
came across whilst searching for information about HMNZT Turakina
which was torpedoed in the North Atlantic 13 August 1917. My
Grandfather now deceased some ten years was sixth engineer. I have
an original of "The Klink" a souvenir of the voyage of HMNZT
"Turakina" 1917. I would be prepared to look up names and any
relevant detail if needed. Peter Cornish |
chaps@chariot.net.au
23.01.02
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Re..Patrick Hunts' query 22/01/02 (the sinking of the "Rangitane ")
, I have sent him the relevant information , gleaned from "ordeal by
sea" as usual. Bill Goyne |
billgoyne@guthlaxton.freeserve.co.uk
28.01.02
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When looking for some photos of ships i sailed on found this site (its
great) i started life with NZSC on the old Pipiriki then the ss
Derby i was also on the Joya Maccance and the clerk Maxwell but
being young and Stewpet never got any photos so would love for any
anybody has or for any one to just get in touch. thank you Ray Allen |
raycarol@raycarol.freeserve.co.uk
28.01.02
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I am looking for any information on John Orr Watson who was on the
MV Aorangi during world war 2. Maryellen Duffy |
maryellenduffy@ozemail.com.au
30.01.02
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My name is James Joseph Kelly (Jimmy). I come from Bootle,
Merseyside. I started in the Merchant Navy in 1939. The ships I have
served on are Westmoreland, Huntingdon, Ruahine, Empire Whimbrel,
Kent, Mahana, Empire Viceroy. I served as fireman and greaser. Is
there anyone out there who sailed in those ships between 1939-1945
who remembers me or anything about the ship/journey/characters? I
would appreciate hearing from anyone who has any memories of these.
James Joseph Kelly |
aseretyllek@hotmail.com
30.01.02
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I am looking for a David Charles Patrick Lloyd who was a 'Mate of
Tasmania Star of the Blue Star Line. About 58 years of age. He was
originally from UK but was living in New Zealand. The last address
was.. ss/Tasmania Star. J.E. Watson and Son. P.O. Box 812, 19 Tay
Street, Invercargill, Southend New Zealand.
I know that the Blue star line is no longer in existence but any
information would be greatly appreciated. Helen Rennick -
Woodstock
Editor ..Blue Star is now part of P&O Nedlloyd and is still called
the Blue Star service operating from Australia to NZ to USA. I wish
you luck
Footnote 28.02.02 Dear Mr Shaw. Please remove my request from the
New Zealand Shipping history as sadly we have found that David Lloyd
is deceased. Thanking you for your help. Helen Rennick.
Editor I felt that there may be others like Helen who may find
solace in knowing that their prayers were answered perhaps not in
the manner that they had hoped but at least they found completion in
the knowing.
Perhaps when you come to read this, you too may feel the need to
reach out to someone long ago, all you have to do is ask and send us
an email |
ian@rennick.com
2.02.02
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I am a collector specialising in everything about Pitcairn islands
whilst trying to find information on H M V Rangitoto when writing up
a competition entry about shipping calling at Pitcairn I stumbled
upon this site, how interesting it is. Has anyone any postcards or
envelopes with Pitcairn cancellations to offer me please. Doug
Lawrence |
doug@pitlaw.freeserve.co.uk
4.02.02
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Can you tell me anything regarding the uniform, especially the
officer's cap badge, worn by men of the MV Hertford? I have done a
web page relating to one of the survivors of the sinking of this
ship.
Click here for survivors of MV Hertford should you like to visit
it. Ed Paquette |
jollytar@shaw.ca
10.02.02
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Have done a search on Turakina and came to this site, I did my
primary schooling in Turakina and , as I recall, there photos and
possibly some historical notes, of Turakina vessels on the walls of
the school. Coincidentally the school has its 150th Jubilee coming
up, will confirm then Regards Doug |
support@nzracing.co.nz
13.02.02
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My dad sailed/worked on board the M.V. Hauraki and SS Derby between
the years of 1961 - 1965 during his merchant seaman days. can anyone
out there let me know where i can obtain pictures of one or both of
the aforementioned ships. Thanks in advance
NB- any other web-sites relating to these ships would also be
appreciated. David Wray |
david.wray@calanais.com
14.02.02
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As an X crew member of the Last Three trips on the Rangitata, Maiden
Voyage Remuera and Rangitoto. Could you Please tell me how long was
the Penant which was flown on the last trip of a ship. Regards John
Wallace. |
Barling@xtra.co.nz
15.02.02
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In 1948 I was employed with N.Z. Loan of London UK and shipped out
from Liverpool aboard the MV Hurunui as a Stud Livestock attendant,
and signed ships articles as a Supernumerary member of the crew.
There were 14 Dorset Horn Ewew and two Wessex Saddleback pigs.
Liverpool 8/7/48 via Las Palmas, Suez, Freemantle, Adelaide and
signed off at Melbourne on 20/8/48 Masters name was Captain
F.Lockheed. This was the maiden voyage of the Hurunui.
I would be interested in making contact with any of the deck crew,
officers or passengers that are interested. Also interested in
finding the source of info relating to the MV Hurunui. Eric Walton
Vancouver Canada |
ewalt266@yahoo.ca
25.02.02
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I was looking for information of the ship M.V.RANGITATA, because I
own a little pocket knife with the name of the boat on it and also a
picture. I am a collector knife and was wondering if the knife was
coming from this boat, and maybe find more information about this
special knife. Thank you in advance for the information Jean Marie
Bélanger |
jmbelanger1@hotmail.com
25.02.02
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Greetings Mr Shaw,
My thanks for the prompt reply to my request for information about
my voyage on the Maiden Voyage of the MV Motor Vessel Hurunui from
Liverpool 1948. The main reason behind my query is that I am
updating a document that relates to my various voyages as a Stud
Stock Attendant on vessels from UK to Australia and from Australia
to USA etc. If by chance someone may read my insertion who was a
Deck Officer or passenger, only passengers on this voyage was
relations of deck officers. This was my first voyage after getting
out for the army in '47, and I enjoyed every second! of it, I would
presume that the MV Hurunui is very similiar to the Haparangi? any
information you can supply me would be of interest, I was employed
by N.Z. Loan company for various voyages, now the company is part of
the Dalgety's I understand, so all info would be lost?
Thank you again for the opportunity to contact you, and the Internet
is a great venue to research my past shipboard voyages. Regards to
you and yours, Eric Walton Vancouver Canada. |
ewalt266@yahoo.ca
25.02.02
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Hello. My name is Bob Chartres and I was a Cadet on the Rakaia from
Feb 1958 till Dec 1959. I am hoping that this excellent site will
help me get in touch with some of my old friends who joined at the
same time. I have already traced Andrew Grieve but would love to
find some of the other 8 Cadets who joined the Rakaia in Belfast
after she had under gone repairs to the engine. The trip before she
had broken a con-rod and Captain Lawson with his crew rigged square
sails and sailed her back to Liverpool from just outside New York.
Those were happy days - never to be forgotten. I would also like to
get my hands on the ships log of those days or the Cadets Log as
mentioned by another above. R M Chartres |
rmchartres@compuserve.com
27.02.02
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I am researching my family tree. Having acquired my uncles CRS10
card I have found that he served on the following ships. "Athenic"
1959 (F/man), "Kent" 1964 (F/man), "Surrey" 1964 (GRS), "Dorset"1965
-1966 (F/man. D/GRS) "Hauraki"1966 (D/GRS), "Nottingham"1966
(D/GRS), "Piako"1966 (D/GRS) "Huntingdon "1967(D/GRS),"Hauraki
"1968(D/GRS) "Somerset "1968(D/GRS) "Sussex"1969 (D/GRS)
"Huntingdon" 1969(D/GRS), "Otaio"1970 (D/GRS), "Hertford"
1970(D/GR).
I am trying to trace his family. If anyone knew him, or how i can
find an address for him I would be grateful. Any information at all
will be gratefully received. Kay Stanley |
kaypeter@btopenworld.com
28.02.02
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Re: Previous message. I am Researching my family tree! I omitted to
name my uncle. The following details are all I know about him.
Name Reginald Auguste OLIVER.
Discharge No.R106908
D.o.B 3/1/1913.Southampton.England.
Fathers name George OLIVER.
Regards Kay Stanley |
kaypeter@btopenworld.com
28.02.02
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My father, Capt. Thomas ('Tommy') MONCRIEFF, was with the NZSC from
about 1930, as apprentice seaman, until his death in 1964, as marine
superintendent based at Albert Dock.
I have a fair number of photographs taken on (and of) NZSC ships
between these dates, service records, notebooks etc.
I also have some uniform items and other items of 'hardware'
(tallboy from 'Rangitiki' cabin, 'Ruahine' memorial paperweight)
I can remember a few anecdotes from my father. Some are serious
('Rangitoto '/'Jervis Bay' convoy, 'Dorset' in the Med), some
comical (crocodile hunt).
At the time of his death, I had already been in boarding schools for
9 years, and, apart from the school holidays (and the Christmas
Parties on board Rangitoto and Rangitiki in Albert Dock) I did not
see as much of him and the his work as I would have liked.
However, he left me in no doubt as to a) the very high esteem in
which the NZSC was generally held, and b) his immense pride in being
part of it.
I have spoken to other NZSC people since, who confirmed the
company's professional reputation, and its strong 'esprit de corps.'
I would welcome a chat with any of his contemporaries (or their
relatives, wishing to fill knowledge gaps) Alastair Moncrieff |
agm@ims-integer.com OR
agmoncrieff@webtribe.net
1.03.02
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Sir, is there anyone out there in the UK that could give me a used
n.z.s.co. ltd crossed flags jumper, as supplied to the crews of the
day, any condition, moth eaten or whatever, serving merchant seaman,
discharge book no uk035770. Stornoway. John Macdonald |
shonnie@madasafish.com
4.03.02
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I am looking for information about an Edwin Sands Dawes who had
something to do with the NZSC any information would be greatly
appreciated. Michelle Jones |
michellejones@winmail.com.au
5.03.02
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My name is Jack Chilton and I was on the "Essex" in 1961-62 and the
"Piako" 1962-63 as an Engineer. Would like to hear from any other
crew members on these ships in New Zealand or UK. Jack Chilton |
chilton@iinet.net.au
6.03.02
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I sailed on several N Z S co vessels as an AB, and have photos of
some, would like photo of Ruhine, Rangtata, Wangerer if anybody has
them I would be pleased to pay Mr M Holberton |
MICHAELHOLBERTON@aol.com
7.03.02
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Would anyone have a photo of R.M.S Tongariro around 1911, I would
appreciate one. I have a passenger list for this vessel which left
London for New Zealand on 20th October 1911 if anyone would like a
look up. Garry Stuckey |
gstucke@attglobal.net
7.03.02
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Good web site keep up the good work. Did you know that Friends
United, the successful website in UK for finding your old school
friends has now opened a workplace site. NZSC has been listed 3 ways
and has only a few names so far. Worth logging in and adding yours
guys ! I suggest we all use the same company name, try New
Zealand Shipping Co limited I was with NZS from 64-69 training on
the Rakaia and subsequently serving on Hauraki, Dorset, Otaki and
Westmorland. Great times! David De Barr |
dkdebarr@xtra.co.nz
8.03.02
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Sir, I served as a junior engineer on the m.v.Middlesex from 1966/67
on what was then called a double header. I still have a photo of her
in Melbourne (Appleton dock c) after reading all the interesting
comments of all the other NZ Ships I was disappointed to read
nothing at all about the m.v. Middlesex there was 10 engineers her
engines were twin 10 sulzers reduction gear box and a magnetic
coupling. Her revs were 210rpm.she had a 580 mm piston head. I'm
looking for a good friend of mine his name is David Charles Evans
8th eng (Henry the eighth) from cwm bran in South Wales. By the way
I was on the m.v. Huntinton on new years eve in Bluff harbor
66/67what a place to spend new years eve. pubs then closed at 6p.m.I
still have a copy of crossed flags magazine for 1967 also I still
have my tie. I must say what a great time I spent with NZ Ships.
David Kavanagh |
sandringham@which.net
9.03.02
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I served an engineering apprenticeship with NZS starting in 1965
(course 8). I did two trips on Otaio, and later served on Tekoa,
Devon, Haparangi. I am looking for any original engine-room photos,
any ship. Any course 8 out there? Peter Edwards |
peter.edwards12@ntlworld.com
10.03.02
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Brian Richardson here and I sailed on the Northumberland, MV with my
cousin Fred Richardson. We sailed from Liverpool to Auckland, It was
in 1968 I think; I can remember that trip because we spent more time
adrift, i can remember a life lost his fingers while they were
changing one of the pistons
Editor Brian never left email address and the rest of his email was
all upper case I don't have time to drop it to lower case to make it
easier to read. So Brian if you want to resend you are more than
welcome
Brian you sent me another email this time with your email address
however when I sent you a confirmation your email address comes back
as an error suggest you retype your email address and send it again |
13.03.02
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I sailed on the M.V. Rangitiki on the 9th May 1958 from London to
Auckland. I have a passenger list, photo of the ship's officers,
ship's plan and many menus that I can refer to if anyone wishes
information. If any passengers on that voyage wish to contact me,
they are very welcome Stuart Andrews |
stu.andrews@virgin.net
14.03.02
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My name is Donald John Morrison from Stornoway. Isle of Lewis. My
next door neighbour (Kenneth John Montgomery) and I joined m.v.Essex
as deck boys in March 1970 after leaving N.S.T. School ,Gravesend.
(X Class 1969) Bill Emberton (Oxford) was a good friend. Henry Angus
Macdonald was also with us. He is still at sea (RFA). Chief Officer
was Ian Rutherford (Big Eye) from Edinburgh. He regularly evicted us
out of the crew bar. Ian Macinnon (Glasgow). Nobby Clarke??? are
names that I remember. We did three/four trips to N.Z before going
our separate ways. Westmorland (`72), Somerset (`72), Hinakura (`73)
were my other ships before skinning out Lyttleton 1973 from
M.V.Hinakura (The Big H). I remember Jack Bradshaw (Greaser) on the
Hinakura. He settled in Wellington working for a brewery!!! Also my
good friends Jimmy Dallas (Keith, Scotland), Jimmy Hickie (Cork,
Ireland) etc etc.
Returned to UK 1976 dbs on Tekoa. I still communicate with one or
two old shipmates from Isle of Barra including John Evans who also
skinned out Lyttelton 1972. Does anybody know of a reunion in
Stornoway this year.? Best Regards, Dolan ... D.J. Morrison (Sneb) |
dolan.morrison@ntlworld.com
14.03.02
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I was an NZSC engineer officer cadet - mv Otaio 1962-3, Poplar TC
1963-4, ss Papanui 1964-5. I've lost touch with all the people I
knew so well then, and would be pleased to hear from any of them (I
am now based mainly in Singapore/Thailand). The names I still
readily remember from those days include: Duncan Smart; David
Sambrook; "Edna" Savage; Allan Slack. I recall that the Chief
Engineering Instructor Officer on the Otaio in those distant days
was known as "The Blob", assisted by messrs. Callan and Moley.
Michael Still |
sempernomadicus@hotmail.com
23.03.02
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I worked for the New Zealand Shipping Company, in New Zealand, from
1965 when I left school until 1971, firstly in Head Office Accounts,
Wellington, then Wellington Branch Accounts. In 1967 I moved, with
my family, to Auckland and joined the Auckland Branch on Quay
Street. Here I worked for both Homeward and Inward Freight Depts.
It was at this time when I saw much change with the Line. Many new
ships came into the fleet whilst still operating with old ships
which were gradually retired. I remember the "Rangi" ships, Remuera,
Hororata, Hauraki and others. The old ships had beauty about them
and many had seen service during the war. Hororata I know was
involved. She (or Hauraki) also had a fire on board in Wellington
while loading wool and I remember the scene of bales of wool
floating in the harbour after they were dumped over board.
Then came the introduction of the Container vessels and again
further change occured with the creation of OCL. Many staff were
asked to transfer into the new comapny but after a time it was
considered that container trade into NZ was going to be later than
expected and so all the newly appointed staff came back again. It
was long after that the changes started to impact.
In 1971 I came over to the UK and I am now living in London.
I enjoyed my time with the company and enjoyed sitting on the
quayside at lunch time watching the ships.
My last spell with the company was doing the Customs entry and
clearance for the vessel and crew. This necessitated some 'good-bye'
drinks with the crew before the vessels sailed. It was "hard" life.
Those in the former company will remember "Crossed Flags" and the
"Maori Club". I still have the tie and also I have some of the
photos of some of the fleet back in NZ. I am pleased I found this
site and be able to read the on-line comments. Brings back great
memories. Paul Martin |
i_paul.martin@virgin.net
25.03.02
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Does anybody have any information on a Captain Gorn of the NZSL in
the 19th Century? Thanks Andrea Hyde |
archie@upnaway.com
27.03.02
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I am looking for a photograph and any WWII information about the
M.V. Kaimata on which my father sailed as third radio officer. Can
anyone help me? Essex Havard |
Essex_Havard@rnli.org.uk
02.04.02
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Jeffrey A friend of mine in Brisbane told me about William Torrance
who sketched, painted and photographed ships on the Brisbane River
over a number of years. One of his books is "Motor Ships of the
Thirties" and that contains a section on NZSCo vessels. ISBN
0959144919.
I understand that the Cancer Society of Queensland may have copies
of his books and his paintings/drawings for sale. Regards Len
Chapman |
mealone@emirates.net.ae
07.04.02
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Editor We get many jokes and stories for our jokes domain however
this one resonated so well that I decided to put it up on the
History of NZ Shipping who knows we might flush out a few more
stories.
A extremely depressed young blonde was so desperate that she decided
to end her life by throwing herself into the Sydney Harbour.
When she went down to the docks, a handsome young sailor noticed her
tears, took pity on her, and said: "Look, you've got a lot to live
for. I'm off to Europe in the morning, and if you like, I can stow
you away on my ship.
I'll take good care of you and bring you food every day."
Moving closer, he slipped his arm around her shoulder and added,
"I'll keep you happy, and you'll keep me happy.".
The blonde nodded 'yes'. After all, what did she have to lose?
That night, the sailor brought her aboard and hid her in a
life-boat. From then on, every night he brought her three sandwiches
and a piece of fruit, and they made passionate love until dawn.
Three weeks later, during a routine search, she was discovered by
the captain.
"What are you doing here?" the Captain asked.
"I have an arrangement with one of the sailors," she explained.
"He's taking me to Europe, and in return I'm letting him screw me."
"He certainly is screwing you lady" said the Captain.
"This is the Manly ferry." |
09.04.02
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I am enquiring into the arrival date of the Hororata and would like
to know if it came to NZ in 1926 fron England, I would like to also
know where I can get a passenger listing for that year. I am trying
to research my family tree on the Cutts family and have been told he
came out that year on the Hororata with his wife and 8 or 9 children
regards Alison Toopi |
ipoot@msn.com
9.04.02
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Can anyone tell me if the Rangitiki or Rangitata called in to
Wellington in 1946 from Durban? I know they were troop ships at one
stage but maybe they weren't at that date? My parents were
passengers returning to NZ. Have a couple of deck photos but no ship
name. Regards Beverley B. C. Bolland |
nbolland@paradise.net.nz
12.04.02
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The following item of NZSCo. ephemera may be of interest.
Manuscript Programme of Entertainment on
board the New Zealand Shipping Company Ship SS Rimutaka dated 6th
May 1915
An attractive, interesting and unusual item
of shipping ephemera being a manuscript programme of entertainment
on board the New Zealand Shipping Company's ship S.S. Rimutaka given
on the 6th of May 1915. The programme is written on an illustrated
"Programme" sheet of the "Royal Albert Aged Merchant Seamen's
Institute." The Captain of the vessel is named in the programme as
Captain F.A. Hemming. The preamble to the programme starts "...At 8
Bells on Promenade Deck The "Reckless Rimutaka Rollickers" will toll
forth and..." The first item of entertainment is entitled "Who shall
kill The Kaiser" which confirms both the date and the common
sentiment of the period. The programme measures 25cms x 19cms and is
in very good condition.
This is the second of the three vessels to
bear the name S.S. Rimutaka. Built in 1900 weighing 7,765 tons. The
ship was scrapped in 1930.
Warmest regards, Philip Christian
10 Papa Panteli Michail Street, 4566 Kalo Chorio, Limassol, Cyprus |
cph@cylink.com.cy
14.04.02
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Hello its Bill aka 'Plum' Chalkley here. I served as a Navigating
Officer cadet on Otaio for voyages 13-18 28/2/64-15/11/66 and was
Cadet Captain for voyage 18. I completed my cadetship on Cornwall
with Peter Rainford and as a result of the OCL announcement at about
that time decided on a career change and have been in IT ever since.
I have lived in Melbourne, Australia since 1971. Through your site I
have made contact with Alex Chisholm and Peter Herring. I have had
continuous contact with David Bell who joined with me but otherwise
have had no contact with the dozens of guys from that era. If any of
you are out there it would be great to hear from you. I am also
trying to find out if there is a Melbourne chapter of the Durham
Association and contact details - can anyone help.
It was through this search that I stumbled across your sight and
many memories have been recalled as a result. I have several photos
from Otaio days which I am happy to make available to anyone
interested. Hope this will activate some other contacts. Bill
Chalkley |
wiljac@bigpond.com.au
16.04.02
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Did anyone travel on the final voyage of the Remuera from Albert
Dock to Auckland in 1964 Patricia Stirling |
patb@dodo.com.au
21.04.02
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My name is Gregory King. I joined the Otaio on 17 March 72 as a Deck
Cadet. I sailed on her for three trips (until 1973). Gordon Cox was
there also. We were recalling how we met (joining the Otaio in the
Royal Albert Dock) and decided to see if we could locate and find
out what happened to the rest of our class. I'm married and living
in the US (New Hampshire). I stopped sailing in 1984, worked for a
while as a Surveyor, and am now a computer tech. Young Gordon is a
Marine Surveyor in Lousiana, working for his own company. He is also
married.
Currently, the only names that come to mind are Harry Marshall and
Mick Cooke, although as I recall there were 14 of us, but John
Donner died on our first trip.
Please contact me directly through my email address. Thank you,
Gregory King |
RoyalWesseX@excite.com
23.04.02
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Greetings from Blenheim, NZ. I am compiling a history of wartime
activities in Marlborough 1939-45. As well as the Air Force flying
training and Army units, I will include include the Sounds defences,
radio fingerprinting, Navy and Merchant Marine.
I thought it would be appropriate to include the Provincial Roll of
Honour, and have details of all but one name from sources including
the commonwealth War Graves Commission.
Any information or suggestion where I might find this for: Elliott,
J. would be appreciated. He/she is noted as "on Kaikoura List" but
I've drawn a blank there. Not among the Armed Forces' casualties, so
wonder if he (she?) might have served in the Merchant Marine.
Any assistance will be gratefully received and faithfully applied -
and acknowledged. Robert E. Montgomery. |
robtmont@paradise.net.nz
29.04.02
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Sir, I arrived at this site when I was searching for "Japanese
torpedo incidents in New Zealand waters WW2". I have been told that
a ferry from Lyttleton to Wellington (or vice versa) was threatened.
Could someone tell me where to go to find this information.
Meanwhile I have enjoyed reading the postings on your site. Many
thanks, Jenifer Josephs-Cato |
jeni.ken@xtra.co.nz
05.05.02
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Hello my name is Charlie Picknell I served on the Haparangi from
1956 - 1959 will be good to here from anyone from them times
remember Ron Joyce who left a message but left no mail address.
please let me know if you get this message as we have tried before.
Charlie Picknell |
jilly_lydias_cottage@lineone.net
8.05.02
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I have whilst going through some old photographs to do our family
tree found some of a great uncle, serving on the SS Hororata. His
name was John Edward Quayle, although most people knew him as Jack
Quayle. The photographs I have are taken in different parts of the
ship and include different jobs (they are quite interesting,
unfortunately they are starting to fade) including boat muster,
coaling, and washing decks, there is also one with the ship on fire
in the mid pacific. Most of the people on the photographs apart form
Uncle Jack are unknown to me, but two of them have names by them
Q.M. W J Healey who is in full sailors uniform and R Mc Intire in
the outfit of Hororata FC.
Amongst the photographs are some of the ships pets a numerous array
of cats and a monkey called Jacko.
Although we know uncle Jack served on the SS Hororata we would like
to know if possible what rank and or job he held.
He died according to the Manx papers (from where he originated), at
sea 8th November 1918 in service.
If anyone can help with any information I would be very grateful.
Elaine |
simic.ke@ntlworld.com
8.05.02
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Re Hinakura. Roy Brown was Junior Engineer on this ship on its last
refrigerated passage Auckland to Tilbury. c 1955 1956 Ship returned
to NZ with steel to Auckland. Roy was signed off there as the next
destination was an Eastern scrap yard. Seeking when and where it was
made. Roy recalls twin Doxford diesels |
peter.noonan@xtra.co.nz
13.05.02
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Just to correct Peter Noonan. Hinakura was still fit, well and
afloat in 1959 when I had one trip as engineer cadet. John
Osborne |
john.osborne@farmersweekly.net
14.05.02
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Although I'm sure that many of you were aware of this story, others
may be interested in the following which is an extract from a
'Questions and Answers' page in the British Daily Mail dated May
13th 2002. Unfortunately the correspondent's name was not mentioned
in the copy I saw.
Question -
When I served on the New Zealand Shipping
Co's m/v Otaki in 1959, her dining room sported the Victoria Cross
of a Captain Smith, who had served on a ship of the same name during
World War 1. The second Otaki has long been broken up. Could you
tell me what happened to that VC ?
This Question elicited two replies which I
post here with all necessary apologies etc for any breach of
copyright.
1. As secretary to Lord Sterling, chairman
of P and O, I see this medal every day, proudly displayed on the
wall in his office. It is mounted as it must have been in the dining
room of the last mv Otaki, where it sat alongside a portrait of
Captain Smith.
It has this inscription : 'This Victoria
Cross was awarded to Captain Archibald Bissett Smith. Master of the
New Zealand Shipping Company vessel ss Otaki. He was was born in
Aberdeen on December 19, 1878, and educated at Robert Gordon's
College. He joined the Company on June 2, 1904 and was promoted
Master in July 1912. he died on March 10, 1917, when in command of
the ss Otaki, which was sunk in the North Atlantic after a very
gallant action with the heavily armed raider 'Moewe'. The Victoria
Cross was awarded posthumously to commemorate this epic of the
Merchant Service'.
The New Zealand Shipping Co, a P and O
subsidiary, acquired the medal by auction in 1951 and it was carried
aboard it's fourth Otaki, which served from 1953 to 1975.
This is signed ; Lyn Allen, P and O SNCo,
London
2) On March 10, 1917, the refrigerated meat
ship Otaki, commanded by Captain Archibald Bisset Smith, sailing 350
miles east of the Azores, was sunk by the German commerce raider
Moewe, but not before the Otaki's 4.7 inch gun had inflicted so much
damage on the Moewe that, although able to reach Kiel, she never
returned to sea. The Otaki lost six crewmen, including Captain
Bisset Smith, who went down with his ship. Smith was a civilian and
therefore not strictly entitled to receive the VC, so he was
posthumously gazetted a lieutenant in the Royal Naval Reserve. The
London Gazette of May 25th, 1919, details the award.
In 1936, the relatives of Captain Bisset
Smith presented the Otaki Shield to the Governors of Robert Gordon's
College, Aberdeen, where he had been educated, to be awarded
annually to the scholar judged pre-eminent in character, leadership
and athletics.
From 1938, the New Zealand Shipping Company
added a travel scholarship in the form of a return trip to New
Zealand - a tradition which continues, with P and O now providing
the passage.
In March 1951, Captain Bisset Smith's VC was
bought at auction by the New Zealand Shipping Company and for two
years it was housed in Robert Gordons's College, but was then placed
in the 'new' Otaki when it was built in 1953.
It remained in the officer's dining room
until the Otaki was sold in 1975. The medal has since been in the
possession of PandO, in pride of place in the office of the
chairman.
Signed ; H.O. Smith, Head of Geography,
Robert Gordon's College, Aberdeen
I remember in the early seventies sailing
with a couple of schoolboys and two 'young farmers' signed as
supernumeraries on OCL's Discovery Bay but cannot remember what
school they were from.
Also, those of you interested may wish to
visit the web site at friendsreunited.co.uk, where many people have
signed onto the various UK nautical colleges featured in the schools
section, but also many ex NZS employees in the 'Workplace' section
under 'Merchant Navy', 'P and O' and two spellings of New Zealand
Shipping Company. After registering an e-mail address the site is
free to enter but there is a charge if you wish to contact somebody
through the site.
Thank you for maintaining this excellent
site.
Colin Nisbet NZS / P and O 1973 - 1983
Editor Please note the article submitted by Colin is about New
Zealand Shipping Co in its previous incarnation as part of P&O. The
current company has no connection with P & O Nedlloyd although we do
slot space on some trade lanes. |
medwynbridge@hotmail.com
21.05.02
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Dear Sir, I am looking for any information from anyone who may have
sailed with my father on the M V Rangitoto in the 1960's his name
was Donnie Lindsay from south uist and he worked in the engine room
, I would be very grateful if anyone who remembers him would get in
touch. photos of the ship would also be very much appreciated Thanks
in advance Donald Lindsay (son) |
donald.lindsay@lineone.net
28.05.02
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I am looking for photographs of the Mv Cumberland built 1948, on
which I served for a short while. Can you help?
Editor If you can supply name and email address someone is bound to
help |
29.05.02
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My name is Bob Gallacher I sailed aboard Haparangi in 1968, Junior
eng. I had my 21st Birthday between Panama and Pitcairn - that was
memorable. Of the few names I remember there was Dave Lesley cadet
eng, Owen "Wagga" Ward from Bluff 5eo and Dave Cowdell 4eo.
There was also one of the Wiigs, electrician from the South Island
somewhere. I was transferred to Hurunui in NZ for the return trip to
UK. Discharged Hurunui in Le Harve. I'm originally from Wigan in
Lancashire now residing in Sydney Aus for the last 30 years. Anybody
out there remember me or have any contact at all with these guys,
would be good to hear from you. Bob Gallacher |
bgallacher@stormvideo.com.au
30.05.02
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Dear Sir, Trust that you or others may be able to help me. I believe
that my great grandfather was a master mariner. His name was Walter
Smith (born approx 1838)he came from Austria and married one of his
passengers a Mary Petersen (born approx 1870) from Denmark. I am not
sure but I think his main port was Port Ahuriri (Napier NZ). Perhaps
his ship may have been the "Taveuni". Any one with information on
him his ship etc would be great fully received, even hints on how to
find more information. As a child I left NZ for Australia aboard the
Wanganui or Whangarei (lousy memory bank) had a wonderful trip but
parents did not. Thanking you Frances McNair |
fab@magpies.com.au
30.05.02
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G'day, My name is Graham Perkins, great site which i have just
stumbled across. I was and Eng Cadet with NZSCo 70 - 74 at Poplar
Tech. sailed on Tongario (Tongaplonk) Essex, Sussex, Hauraki, all
during the early 70's. Unfortunately during the revolution I ended
up in the Gulf for my sins. What ever happened to names like
"Scarface Leachman", The Mad Monk, Mary Baker, The Black Musium all
great names from the past and with happy memories. I now live in
Hobart, Australia and any one who might know me is welcome to drop
me a line. Keep up the good work. Graham Perkins |
gperkins10@bigpond.com
03.06.02
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I am trying to find any info about ss Ionic which sailed between UK
and NZ in the year 1923. maybe someone can tell me how to find a
passenger list, a photo or anything that might be of interest to me
what shipping line was it with etc. Regards Ann Sue |
annsue@optusnet.com.au
12.06.02
|
In the section Reconstruction of the Fleet (1939 to early Fifties),
you have a query as to the build date of the Rangitane.
I joined her in December 1949 when she lay at her builders, John
Brown of Clydebank in process of completion. After sea trials, we
sailed for London and from there carried out her maiden voyage to NZ
in January 1950.
Her sister, Rangitoto was in Auckland when we arrived at the next
pier and was then on her second voyage having left the builders some
months before. The build dates therefore were during 1948/49/ Hope
this helps. Bill Whitehead |
bill.whitehead1@btinternet.com
12.06.02
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My father, Frederick E Greatorex was a passenger on the MV Rangitata
in July 1941 on passage to South Africa. He was in the Royal Air
Force being posted to South Africa. Landed at Cape Town then on to
Pretoria. Ship travelled in convoy. Helped ships carpenter while
underway, as he was a qualified joiner/carpenter. Remembers the ship
with affection. |
mgreato@jmgreatorex.freeserve.co.uk
14.06.02
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Dear Sirs I would like to contact some old ship mates who sailed
with me on the mv Hertford, between February 1955 and November 1956.
I was Captains Steward (Tiger) I also sailed as a Ist Class Dining
steward on the Rangitata from October 24th 1957 to February 14th
1958 John Appleton |
JOHNY@penshurst49.fsnet.co.uk
15.06.02
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Hello Jeffrey, it has been a long time since we last communicated,
but I was given details of your site by a newly found cousin of mine
and feel after reading some of the details re the Index I passed on
for the use of anyone, that I must update some of the information
for you. I have a set of three little books, one of which I did the
index from, the book itself is called "Ships of the New Zealand
Shipping Company" and it was compiled by Gavin McLean with
photographs from the Wellington Harbour Board Maritime Museum
Collection 3. ISBN 0 477 00015 0, by GP Books. It is a small
collection of photographs with very little detail on each ship, and
it had no index to say which ship was mentioned in the book, hence
my little index. Over the years this small index which is on my web
page has helped a number of people looking for photographs of these
particular ships, hence the index is available for anyone to use and
I am quite willing to scan individual l photos from the book and
send to people who require a photo of the ship their ancestor may
have been connected with in some way. I know from knowledge of the
NZ Shipping Company this book is not complete, but my index only
pertains to the ships and photos mentioned in this book. If you
would like to update your list to mention the name of the Author etc
it may help others. Sorry that was left off so many years ago. keep
up your great work on this site, it is good to have good sites to
refer to. Ailsa Corlett
Editor: Your baby has grown Ailsa I trust I have done a good job as
its mid wife (ha ha) although I must say it would be nice to finish
off the vessel section. If someone reading would like to put the
whole vessel list together in word or excel format and email it to
me, I will make the time available between work commitments to
install it on the vessel section and give them the credit for doing
so, as a big thank you, from all of us. |
ailsa@st.net.au
15.06.02
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Hi Jeff
The site is great and a real credit to you. I could not have done it
as well, I just don't have the time any more to devote to family
history which is a pity, but maybe later on when I retire one day.
Anyway your site and you have prompted me to think more about the
book I have and the photos in it, so if you like I am going to
finish scanning (half of them already done) the rest of the photos
in the book, place onto CD and send a copy to you. I did not put the
photos on my web site as the book is copyrighted, but felt scanning
one or two when asked by someone who required a copy of the photo
for their research was ok, I would suggest you do the same in this
case, but at least you can have a full copy of all the pictures of
the ships in the book, I just need a postal address to send it to,
and give me a couple of weeks to finalise it. The wonders of Cd
Burners now. All the best Ailsa
Editor: That would be nice I am sure we can
help people in the manner you have suggested. Ailsa web site is
http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa |
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We received a number of photos (black & white) of New Zealand
Shipping vessels from Ailsa and immediately set about creating a
section containing these photos. I might add if you have any photos
yourself please go ahead and email us in jpeg format. As always we
will acknowledge you as a contributor (something for prosperity)
Jeff |
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My father, Eric Leach from Liverpool, served with the NZSC from 1925
until his marriage in January 1938 when he left the sea and worked
at The Royal Albert Dock. It gave him so much pleasure to see some
of his old ships dock there.
My parents received a canteen of cutlery from the Catering
Department of R.M.S. Ruahine as a wedding gift dated 15th January
1938. My father died in 1984, but my mother, who is 93, tells me
that the crew were torpedoed.
Is that correct? Does anyone have a 'photo of the Ruahine please?
Valerie M. Vine |
vines@vinev.freeserve.co.uk
19.06.02
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What a good site. Cheers, Sneb. How ya doin'? Between '65 and '72
sailed on Huntingdon, Ruahine, Nottingham, Essex, (Canberra Star of
Blue Star Line), skinned out in Kiwi from Cumberland in '73. Came
back to Scotland in '98. Would love to catch up with Ian Kerr of
Fort William. His brother Hughie also sailed with us on Huntingdon
circa 1970/71.
Any old shipmates who remember me can get in touch via supplied
email. I see Joe Quinn all the time plus lots of ex 'Shifting
Company' Barramen if anyone one wants to make contact. A good day's
been made better. Cheers, John Evans. |
johnwonfor@aol.com
19.06.02
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Hi Jeff, Thanks for yours in response to mine regarding Rangitane
and Rangitoto build dates. Very pleased to hear it will be in the
newsletter. Speaking of which, I have somehow deleted the web site
address, would you please advise me of it. I'll bookmark it this
time. Thanks again and best regards Bill |
bill.whitehead1@btinternet.com
22.06.02
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Please I hope someone can help me, I am looking for a photo of the
Merchant Vessel Cambridge, that sailed in New Zealand waters in
1956. It is really important for me to get a picture. Please please
please can anyone help me Thank you Regards Meryl Oliver |
molly63@xtra.co.nz
23.06.02
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My name is Duncan MacDonald. I sailed in "Orari" on six voyages as
4th. and 3rd. Officer under Captain Nelson Rice between 2/9/41 and
21/2/44 including the Malta convoy in June 1942. Of the six ships in
the convoy, only two reached Malta and we were struck by a parachute
mine at the entrance to Valeta harbour. "ORARI" had a charmed life
like the time she brought back a live German torpedo that had landed
on the after deck as the ship rolled to port in a heavy gale. I am
now 87 but like to hear from any shipmates who can remember me as
there is lots more to tell !!! Sincerely. Duncan Macdonald, M.B.E. |
duncan@ix.net.au
24.06.02
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Looking for information on our uncle Spencer Faulkner? served in
RNZN on A M C Monawii. Later merchant marine Russian convoys, was
known to be in Portsmouth naval hospital with T.B. date unknown was
last seen 1949 maiden voyage on Rangitoto, or Rangitane Wellington
N.Z. has not been heard from by my mother since. Any info would be
appreciated. Garey |
gareyhocking@optusnet.com.au
24.06.02
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Hi Ailsa, I have sailed with the old NZSCo
during 1960-64 and have recently completed a model of the MV Rakaia
on of the ships I sailed on. I am now starting to construct a model
of the Rangatoto and have acquired the general plans from Tyne and
Were Archives. I am having some trouble acquiring photographs to
help me to complete the superstructure. Would you have any that you
could scan and e-mail to me? If this is any trouble please do not
bother.
I like your web site.
I have attached a jpg of the model I made as it might be of
interest to you.
Best regards.
Alex Henderson
41 Island Bank Road
Inverness IV2 4QT
Phone
01463 238397
Editor: click here to see
Rakaia
once this page opens up you will have to scroll down the page to see
photo of Alex's scale model |
unalex@tinyonline.co.uk
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Jeff, thanks for a terrific site. Isn't it interesting that many of
your contributors recall service with NZSC as the happy days. I
could'nt agree more.
Once long ago, I defected and sailed with Union Castle, but how I
missed the Rangi boats. It was not long before I was back with the
Tiki !
When serving "On the Coast", round about the middle forties, I
recall that all the bars closed at 6pm, but to the less civic minded
of us there was a place in either Auckland or Wellington that we
used to call Ma Gleason's, where after some shifty door knocking,
one could purchase what was known as "sly grog".
By direct contrast, a little later in the early fifties, there was a
milkbar in the main street of Auckland, near the Ferry Building,
called Duffy's Tavern. Anyone remember it ? Great days. Bill
Whitehead |
bill.whitehead1@btinternet.com
01.07.02
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Hi, I'm researching my brother John Cameron (Joe) who served on the
Ruahine as Radio Officer during the 2nd World War. If anyone served
on the ship and new my bother, I would love to hear from you. Ian
Cameron |
ian@clephane-cameron.fsnet.co.uk
03.02.02
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Hi, I really like the site. Well done. I have a framed print of MV
Huntingdon purchased at a Marine auction in Sydney some years ago.
Can somebody refresh my memory - which has taken a battering over
the years - which "H" vessel was it that suffered a fairly large
engine room fire in Liverpool docks around 1970? or so. I was aboard
the said vessel the evening prior to the fire, borrowing spares for
Hurunui where I was duty engineer.
I was back aboard the "H" vessel the next day loaning them equipment
to help to get things started again. Bob Gallacher |
bgallacher@stormvideo.com.au
04.07.02
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Hi Jeff, Just discovered your site and have spent the last hour
reading back through the messages, fascinating and brings back all
sorts of memories. I joined Durham as an Apprentice, the first trip
after the war as a cadet ship, in the London docks. Pilcher was the
master. Last trip before second mates aboard Haparangi, after trips
aboard the old Kent and maiden trip aboard Rangitane (farmer Maltby
master) as far as Auckland then transferred to Leicester (ex Sam
Key) for the trip back to London. I was lucky as Leicester went down
with all hands the next voyage. I then left the NZSC and joined RFA
where I spent six years then Nigeria with the Ports Authority where
I started piloting finally finished my working life in Australia as
a New South Wales pilot for twenty years. There is or was a Durham
Association in Auckland organised by Capt Dunsford and he was trying
to form a branch here in NSW never did hear if he was successful or
not. I am anxious to obtain the NZSC crest and am hoping that
someone maybe able to help. The mention of Ma Gleesons brought back
a few memories good and bad. It was a pleasant hour reading all the
emails many thanks. Sam Twyford |
stwyford@bigpond.net.au
07.07.02
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My name is Tina, I am Looking for a photograph of the ss Papanui. My
Dad, David Jane, served on this ship from 1957 onwards, although I'm
not sure for how long. I have had no luck on the web yet and would
be grateful if anyone has a picture they could forward to me. Many
thanks. Tina |
keith@kbr6818.freeserve.co.uk
08.07.02
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My father, Captain Fergus Cross, received his cadet training on the
"Northumberland" and later commanded the MANZ Line (Montreal
Australia New Zealand) vessel "Ottawa Valley"
Our family journeyed with him in 1947 to Australia and New Zealand
aboard the Ottawa Valley. Halifax to Australia, New Zealand,
England, and back on the SS "Ottawa Valley" Captain Fergus
Cross - Master
This is an account from the journal of Jean
Cross, wife of the Master, written during the voyage in 1947.
Halifax, Sunday September 28, 1947.
I worked like mad all day to get house finished so I could leave.
Keith (Morrow) came over about 7 pm to collect trunk and suitcase. I
had all the boys asleep early. Cynthia (Hunter-Smith) and I finished
our coffee and did the dishes and then I cleaned the kitchen and put
away the final odds and sods. All clean except floor. Got coffee and
sandwiches ready as Keith is to call at 2 am for us. Got the boys
and Cynthia up about 1:30 am. Didn't leave until 3 am as Keith
overslept and was late. Ian and Duncan slept in the car. Angus and I
tried to but were too excited.
Monday, September 29th.
Arrived in Mulgrave around 8 am. We found the wharf and had
breakfast in the trainmen's sleeping and eating car. The ship
arrived shortly after 9 am and the seaboat picked us up right at the
jetty. Everything went fine and the day was perfect, hot, sunny and
calm. The boys are all happy. Partly unpacked and settled. Ian and
Angus have Spark's (radio operator) old cabin. Duncan is in his
basket on the settee in Fergus' room. Lots of room. I can still
hardly beleive I'm here. Duncan 20 days old. Ian 14 months. Angus 5
years. What a nerve we have starting off for Australia with them
all. Angus is in his element and we're all happy to be leaving.
Halifax for the winter. Wonderful day but am I tired!
At sea, Tuesday, September 30th.
Cool and lovely sunny day. Calm and all well.
Wednesday, October 1st
Hot, rainy and windy - a real storm blowing up. Have to keep ports
closed and so hot inside it's really suffocating. Nearly all
unpacked and put away. Very rough and not very comfortable. Ian
keeps falling but it doesn't bother Angus. I keep banging into the
settee. Going pretty slow today.
Thursday, October 2nd.
Rain has stopped but still windy and ship rolling more than
yesterday.
Everything swinging and banging. We are all eating three meals a day
and its just uncomfortable trying to stand up in one spot. Ian not
falling so much. He's still jealous of Fergus and roars for me all
the time. Duncan no bother except for his appetite and his pants.
Off Bermuda, Friday, October 3rd.
Passed Bermuda in the distance. Saw the lights and a plane or two.
Getting warmer and calmer.
Sunday, October 5th.
Hot weather now. The kids in their summer
clothes again and I'm hot in summer dresses. Passed Puerto Rico,
really down south now. Should reach Curacao on Tuesday. Weather
good. Rains nearly every night and getting hot and humid.
Curacao, Tuesday, October 7th.
Reached Curacao this morning about 10 am. Went to Carracas Bay first
and waited, and then went right into Willemstad. Grand sight. All
the signs are in Dutch. Millions of ships around and a smell of oil
all over. Hot as Hades. Not much air at all. Boats of all
descriptions full of black men putt-putting all around us. The crew
put the boat over the side and it's running to the town every little
while. Angus went in and out on it all afternoon and went ashore
with the boys for a beer. They took Ian one trip too up to the best
hotel for a lime squash. Fergus and I slept. too hot to go ashore
til later. Nearly melted away. Went in about 4:30 and looked around.
Amazing sights we saw. The banana boats, like Nova Scotia fishing
schooners. They tie up along one side of the street and sell their
wares from there. On the other side are the stores. all little shops
about 4 feet wide piled with clothes, hats, shoes, material. the
proprietors sitting in a chair by the door and the front of most
stores open. All black people talking Dutch, in every kind of garb.
Very picturesque place.
White plaster buildings and red tile roof tops. No grass anywhere.
Must have been an old volcano as everything around is old lava. I
bought a sun hat, purse, and stockings. Had a couple of drinks at
the big hotel. Walked over the bridge to the other side. The bridge
swings across the river.
It's built on floats. The government buildings are all beautiful and
there is one wide main street but the streets with all the shops are
only wide enough for one car. The streets where the people live are
just narrow lanes. all paved between rows of high buildings. Some
people wear shoes and some don't. All the storekeepers are black or
nearly black. In fact we saw hardly any white people. Everyone has
new cars though of the better makes. The white people must live
outside the town as we didn't see any homes at all. Went back to the
ship for supper. Put the boys to bed and then went ashore again for
a couple of hours. Went to the hotel for a
Collins, the Panama Canal, Friday, October
10th.
Reached canal about 10 am and got through to the Pacific side by
about 5 pm. Very interesting going through the locks but the heat
and humidity simply awful. Angus thought the engines that pull the
ship were fascinating and watched everything. Ian was used to the
black people and didn't stare like in Curacao where even the agent
is black. Got a letter from Mother, none from Cynthia. Fergus got
some, but no more news for a month now. Mr. Yosh, someone from
Norton Lilly's came down and took us ashore about 9 pm. Drove us all
over Bilboa and into Panama. Looked beautiful at night. The homes
were grand. Huge - spacious, white all frame. some of course weren't
so hot but it's so different and the huge palm trees and white
buildings look grand. He dropped us at the International Hotel, but
there were not any people dancing, just gambling, so we went across
to Kelly's - a nightclub affair and had some collins and saw the
floor show. Some of it good - some awful. I'd never seen strip tease
before but I certainly did there. The Chief Steward and Sparks came
along and sat with us. John Bostock and another engineer showed up
there too. The girls aren't fussy. The old dame Kelly even had two
over with some Chinese- better looking than some of the white men
around - motto must be All welcome. We left there and went to El
Rancho but were late and the crowd had left as it had rained and the
dance floor was roofless. Had a few dances to the organ and then
back to the International. still nobody there but danced anyway.
coolest place since we left Canada. Really air-conditioned. Tried to
go in the game rooms but the Steward and Sparks didn't have jackets
so we weren't allowed. Fellow with a gun sitting at the door. Went
to the El Rancho but most of the crowd was gone. Had a couple of
drinks and dances on the wet floor and got a cab back to the ship.
Fergus and I stopped at the ship "Northumberland", Fergus' old
training ship. Captain Fred Lougheed made us very welcome and two of
his passengers, Mr. Dickson, and Mr. Wellbrook came
At sea.
Coldest day yet. The day we crossed the equator. Fergus sends daily
messages to "Northumberland" comparing speeds. We are doing about
the same as they are.
Tuesday, October 20th.
Duncan 6 weeks old today. Weighed him on the cook's scale 12.25
pounds before his breakfast. He looks lovely now, smiles at us all
the time and so big and fat and nice looking. His hair is growing
and he has a sunbath every day now. Fergus wants to take him in the
big bath with all the others. Angus has been back aft all afternoon.
Ian and Duncan and I sat out in front, then Ian and I spent an hour
in the pool. Horribly hot but nice breeze. Angus presented Chief
Officer with his 2 hours overtime sheet. He got a big kick out of
it. Later played crib with Sparks, Chippie, Beave. We won but not my
playing that did it. I'll learn eventually. Fergus looked after the
kids as the all woke up. Chief came up for a drink before bed.
Talked of his experience in lifeboat during the war. Bed about 11:30
Wednesday, October 21st.
Beautiful day. Very hot and humid these days. Chippie finished
Angus' dory and he has it in the water. Ian and he playing in pool.
Duncan asleep here, just going to sunbathe and then a dip to cool
off. Fergus still working on car. Sat out here with kids all
morning. This is a wonderful change. Really enjoying the sun, rest
and most of all being all together.
Thursday evening, October 22nd.
Did I say rest? I played crib with Sparks, Holmes, and Pete Clark
but we lost. Then Sparks showed me 45's again. Fergus read his book,
"The Border Lord". I played 45's and asked questions. Know a bit
more about it anyway.
Had a couple of lemon gins and went to bed early. The clock goes
back again tonight. About 3 am. just as I was trying to get back to
sleep after being up with Duncan, Fergus woke up with a horrible
pain and stomach ache. The stone in his kidney again he thought. He
was horribly sick the rest of the night. Nothing seemed to help much
and the pain was terrible.
The kids all woke at 6:15 am. and Ian only slept about 3/4 of an
hour today so we are all weary tonight. It's been a beast of a day
too. The hottest since Panama and a scorcher. Fergie napped or tried
to all day in between drinking lemonade and bringing it up. I tried
to keep Angus and Ian in one spot and as quiet as possible. They are
all asleep now, thank goodness. Just finished the washing and hung
some out, had a bath and trying to cool off. Am sure pounds melted
off last night and today. The fierce pain has gone but Fergus still
bringing up everything, trying Bovril now. Hope he sleeps tonight
and that it's moved tomorrow. we'll see a Doctor as soon as we get
to Sydney, as this wasn't funny.
Friday, October, 23rd.
Fergus still not so good but think it is improving. Passed two
islands today, or one last night and one today. One inhabited by 150
people and the other not. Going to stop at Tahiti if Fergus isn't
better. Should be there Sunday. I have rubbed him and put hot water
bottles on continuously.
Saturday, October 24th.
Passed more islands. Fergus seems a bit better. Had a mustard bath
which seemed to relieve the pain some. Also started hot cloths which
seem to be better than hot water bottles. Think it is getting
better. Gave him more laudanum last night and he got a bit of rest.
Started ordinary kidney pills which may help. He's very tired so
should sleep tonight.
Sunday, October 25th.
Fergus feels much better. Thought he passed
the stone today. Had a good sleep last night which helped him too.
Got to Tahiti about middle of afternoon and were by it by dark. We
were only 1/2 mile off so had a good look at it anyway. It's all
hills and mountain peaks and passes - all wooded from this side.
Supposed to be 18 miles - 4,000 inhabitants. Wish we could have
stopped but very glad we didn't have to for Fergus. Couldn't see the
town from here but it was good to see land again. Has been a hell of
a day though. Thank goodness tomorrow will be a new day and a better
one, I hope. I couldn't stand another like this.
Monday, October 26th.
Fergus better but stayed mostly in bed as it stormed all day. Rained
buckets and the waves are getting bigger and rolling more all the
time. Really running uphill all the while.
October 31st. Halloween
Angus and I had a Halloween Party. Dressed him in my old smock and
straw-hat and purse, lipstick. He looked cute too. We made pumpkin
faces for all the lights. Went and called on the Chief and John. Got
a bunch of chocolate bars from each. It was raining and windy so we
didn't go anywhere else. Came back and drank coke and played a few
games. He was thrilled and we had fun. He misses his playmates.
Friday, November 1st.
Sewed most of the day. Still cool and cloudy most of the time. Angus
was up on the bridge most of the day. Fergus finished putting the
car back together so it looks like a car again. Hope it works when
he tries to start it. We miss a day tomorrow, just isn't, and next
day is Monday.
Still just water all around. 88 million square miles of it the Chief
said. We whip right along but it is such a long way from Panama. Has
been good weather all the way though and we are nearly there now.
Hope we can find someone to mind the boys so I can see Australia
after all this. It's good to be missing the winter at home all
alone. I'm thoroughly enjoying the trip and being with Fergus most
of all. Can't imagine going to sea from choice, not on a run like
this, just sitting here in the middle of nowhere with time and the
world going by and having no part in it. All they do is play cards
in any spare time, or a game of deck quoits.
November 4th.
A beautiful day. Had a couple of rain showers but much warmer, just
about right. We are near New Zealand now and should reach Sydney
Saturday pm sometime. Helped Fergie with the car today, cleaning the
upholstery. It didn't start today but likely will tomorrow. One of
the cats had been in it and it smelled lovely, I don't think. Fergus
has been playing cards and i just finished the washing. The kids are
in bed and quiet , thank goodness. They keep going all day but I can
stand their noise and bother with Fergus around too. At least it's
not just looking after children.
They're cute though in spite of their badness and they're not really
bad anyway. We really whipped along today at 15 knots. You'd never
know we were moving. Three big albatross are following the ship now.
The boys are all busy painting the ship, looks nice and clean again.
Angus has been helping ?? up on the bridge. Yelled "Good morning
Sam" to someone this morning and when I asked who he meant he said
it was "Beaver's Fodder" who works up in the wheelhouse. Tonight he
said one of the boys who works there is named "Ketchup". I must get
some letters written before we get to Sydney. Thought I'd get lots
done but haven't written one. Just been enjoying myself doing lots
of nothing and liking it. I'm so glad we could come. Duncan is
thriving and Ian has grown a lot too. Still has his wheeze but if it
warms up it should cure us all.
Saturday, November 8th.
Arrived Sydney at 2 pm. a beautiful hot, sunny day. Went out to
Clifford and Sylvia Kidd's that evening. His mother and father were
there too. Had a nice evening. We went over and back on the ferry
which we got at Circular Quay. They have a small apartment. The
"john" outside, around the corner, but the rest very nice. Had
"supper" about 10 pm and got the 12 o'clock ferry home.
Next day was very hot and we couldn't drive the car yet, so we took
the ferry to Manly Beach. Left Duncan on board. Saw the sharks in
the pool and the fenced in pool for swimming. Rode the ferris wheel
and Angus went on the merry-go-round. Then went over to the sea
promenade and beach where they surf. Looked marvelous and there were
thousands there, a scorching day. Ian got something in his eye and
looked awful. The ferry home was so crowded we had to stand , then
took turns at one seat. Went out to Tom and Merle McGrays next
evening. Took Duncan along. Their little girl Joan, stayed up all
evening and played. Sydney - Melbourne - Sydney - then New Zealand
Napier - Christchurch - Palmerston North - Lower Hutt - Wellington
Entertained royally everywhere. Trade Commissioners, Board of Trade,
Mayors, Police Commissioners, Doctors, Agents, Mission to Seamen -
everyone so friendly and happy to have a Canadian ship and family to
show around their beautiful countries. Have a long list of friends
made in both Australia and New Zealand.
In New Zealand - Napier for Christmas.
Friday, January 23rd., 1948
Left Lyttelton, New Zealand at 6;40 pm for Panama and home. Had a
busy time as it was a short stay here. Lovely day, cooler but sunny
in the afternoon. Had lovely hot weather since we arrived in
Lyttelton and had 2 good swims at Summer Beach. Windy and cold when
we got out to sea, and rolling quite a bit.
Saturday, January 24th.
Sunny and cool, very windy and rolling a lot. The kids stayed in all
day as it was to windy and tossing to much for out on deck. Milder
tonight but still rolling away. No one bothers but it is hard
walking. Had Duncan up in the baby-tender all afternoon and the
other two played in the room with their ca-ca's (cars) while Fergus
slept.
This was the 2nd. Saturday we could have done without. Cold and
windy and rolling like mad. Everything flying all over and the kids
don't like it much either and were pesty all day. Played with them
all afternoon but certainly glad when they went to bed. Then Angus
up at 12:30 am and Ian woke from the rolling. Fergus' hat fell on
Duncan and wakened him at 2:30 am and then Angus was up again. I
spent most of the night getting up to them all.
Saturday - week later
It's been windy and rough most of the week. Thursday and Friday
weren't to bad and we sat out in the sun on deck in the afternoons.
Fergus fixed the chair and made a couple of canvas covers and is
going to make a hammock.
Started to blow again in the night and although the sun is out
occasionally it's rough again and very windy. The temperature isn't
so cold though, thank goodness. Had a good thunderstorm last night.
Sounded like some earthquake rumbling. Made a pair of mitts and
trousers for Angus this week and nearly finished knitting a pair of
pants for Ian. We cut Ian's hair yesterday which improved him a lot.
He talks all the time now.
First part of week Still cool and windy, not
going very fast.
January 27th. to 31st.
Warming up a bit. Have the swimming pool going and sit out in the
sun every afternoon and then have a swim. Fergus is making a hammock
and fixing deck chairs.
February 1st.
Duncan got his first tooth or I just noticed it today. It's very up
and another is nearly through. The wind slowed us up so we passed
Pitcairn Island at night so we couldn't stop. All disappointed but
it couldn't be helped.
February 2nd. to 7th.
Sat out in the sun and swam later. Getting a tan again. The sun is
hot but a cool wind all the time which nearly blows us out of the
pool. Duncan loves it too. He goes in everyday and just cried the
first day. Kicks and grins and floats around.
February 9th.
Duncan 5 months today. Is nearly to big for his basket. His feet are
at the end and he can almost get right out by pushing his feet on
the side. Afraid he will upset it any day now. Got a burn today in
the sun. The hammock is very comfy.
February 10th.
Almost finished Fergus' typing so will have to get back to my
sewing. Been carving men out of chunks of wood for Angus. He likes
them. Good weather. Still blowing but nice temperature. Wish it were
like this when we get to Halifax.
February 11th.
Duncan has another tooth. He had a lovely swim today. He practically
floats on his own. Ian and Angus are both half fish. Made more
little wooden men for the kids. Finished the typing then sat and
talked and drank port half the night. Didn't have a game of checkers
today. First we have missed for ages. Didn't have a walk either.
February 12th.
A hell of a day from start to finish. Felt like the dickens all day
and everything went wrong. The Chief came up for a drink at night. A
fiasco of a day. Better not to have been and please God there won't
be any more.
Friday, February 13th.
Good weather. All had a good swim today. Nice and hot, but a breeze.
Getting warmer and muggier now.
February 14th.
HOT! "Friend" arrived, and how! Can hardly move and couldn't have a
swim. Fergus took the kids all in and they had a good time. I went
to bed from noon until 2. Helped a little. The Chief was up in the
evening.
Sunday
Really getting hot and humid. Rained on and off. The boys all went
swimming. Really felt sick all day. Should be better tomorrow. The
Chief was in for drinks and stayed til 1:15 am. All getting tans
now. Rained like mad in the evening and so hot. Engine stopped
during evening.
Monday, February 16th.
Hot and still and not a breath of air and sea is calm as a pond.
Stopped at noon to fix engine. Angus fished but no luck. Saw lots of
flying fish and dolphins this afternoon and evening. A lovely day.
All had a good swim and the boys had a "pash-pash" before bed
tonight. Duncan really loves it now and squeals, laughs and kicks.
He's getting huge. Moved his basket to the floor as he tips over
now. He's getting a bit browner now too. Gave him a swing before bed
again. He loves it.
Panama
Arrived at 5 pm at dock and left at 2am. Fergus and I went up to Mr.
Yost's house for a couple of hours. Had a nice evening. She gave me
a table cloth and a hankie. Both very nice and a grand change after
so much sea. Winter now so weather just about right.
Sunday, Curacao
Got a car and went ashore in the afternoon. Took our bathing suits
and the driver took us to big hotel and bathing beach. Left Duncan
on board and we all had a good swim in the ocean. The car came back
for us at 4 pm. Had the dearest bottle of beer at the bar, all the
way from Holland. Drove all over the island. Saw the planes leaving
from airport. Never saw so many goats before in all my life. A dry
barren looking island, mostly cactus and negro huts. Left about
dark. Had the same nice pilot. Had good weather all next week. Sat
out in shorts until Saturday when it began to get colder and blowy.
Sunday rough and cold.
Monday, March 1st.
Arrived New York city. Temperature around 32 degrees (F) Snowed
later in day but changed to rain. Called Harvey and Louise (Glover)
but he was at union meetings. I couldn't go ashore as I didn't have
an up to date passport, so have to go on to Saint John on ship.
Called Mom and Dad from end of dock. Called Howard (Glover) next
night to meet us in Saint John. He has been transferred to Halifax
office (HFC- Household Finance). Told him to phone Cynthia.
Wednesday, March 3rd.
Left for Saint John. Should arrive Saturday am. Cold as Greenland,
15 degrees below F. Hope it warms up a bit. To much of a change in
such a short time.
Saturday, March 6th.
Strike on in Canada. Advised to delay arrival. Wired Howard to wait
until he heard from us, may go on to Halifax. Steaming around Bay of
Fundy all morning waiting. Finally got word to go straight to
London. So guess we have a chance to see England whether we want to
or not.
Thursday, March 18th.
Had some good weather and some pretty rough.
Arrived London about 7 pm. Mr. Cross waiting on dock. Very pleased
to see the kids. Before Customs and all the men had left Mrs. Cross
sent message in from gate. What a mix up. She came down and sat in
one room, then I put the kids to bed and she sat in bedroom and
Fergus and Dad in living room. Wouldn't speak to him at all. A heck
of a mess. She finally left about 10:30 Fergus walked to bus with
her. I made sandwiches the rest of the evening and Mr Cross stayed
all night. Moved Ian to our room and Angus to Ian's bed, but he
slept with Grandpa anyway.
Friday, March 19th.
Fergus in City all day. Got back to ship about 6 pm. Had kids ready
and got taxi out to Loughton. Arrived 8 pm Bill and Mrs C at
hospital so put kids to bed and they got home about 10:30 pm. We all
had Mrs C's room and she slept in the living room.
Saturday, March 20th.
Fergus to get car at Brown's. Left early for ship and hoped to be
back early. Waited all afternoon for Bill and finally got home at 5
without him. Piled kids in car and went for a drive around. Were on
a hill from which you can see 7 counties. Stopped at old inn where
Dickens wrote some of his works. Saw his insurance policy 1812. Inn
built around maypole.
Very old and lovely. Got home and put kids to bed and got something
to eat. Bill got home while we were eating. Wanted to look for
Timpsons but Fergus didn't feel like going out so we sat and talked
but it ended in a horrible argument. Wished we had gone out. Got to
bed at 4;30 am. Plan to get up and drive to Folkestone on Sunday and
see Angus on Monday as we leave on Tuesday. Got away at 1 pm.
Arrived Aunt Jean's at 4:30 She was home and I guess glad to see us
all. Rational at times if kept talking about outside things. Place a
mess. Never saw so many locks on doors before. Left shortly after 6
and stopped at parents of old friend of Fergus. Very nice old couple
and very thrilled and pleased to see us and the children. Had a good
drive home. Beautiful countryside and got to Loughton at 9:30
Tuesday, March 23rd.
Left for Canada and home to Halifax. An
experience to remember. Dad Cross on pier waving goodbye. Really
sad.
April 8th., 1948
Met by irate company officials on arrival in Halifax. Fergus had
already sent in his resignation so they couldn't fire him, but we
all got to Australia and New Zealand without management consent and
approval and loved it, but boy were they mad! Always regretted not
bringing Mr. Cross home with us. He wanted so badly to come. Don't
know how we would have managed, but would have found a way I am
sure.
And now back to real life.
Jean Cross, April 9th., 1948.
Post Script by Angus
Quite the voyage for a little guy, just
turned 5 years of age, on departure. I remember a few things from
the trip. The donkey engines that pulled the ship through the locks
of the Panama Canal.
The swimming pool the crew made for us. It was about 12' x 10', and
located one deck down from the bridge on the starboard side.
Seeing the sharks in the shark pool in Sydney, Australia.
The fag/fig story.... Mom smoked and called cigarettes "fags". One
day, while we were touring in the Blue Mountains of Australia, she
got me to go into a shop to get her some "fags". The Aussies din't
know what I was talking about and gave me a package of figs. It was
a big joke.
The clean the heads story..... The old man ran a clean ship and
always had the crew cleaning and polishing. One day he decided that
the heads in one of the cabins needed a good clean. The crew
unbolted the head and brought it out on deck so it could be washed
with a steam hose. In my capacity as "junior bosun" I kept calling
the Chief Engineer and demanding more pressure on the hose. Finally
he had enough and maxed the pressure whereby the head broke into a
bunch of pieces. I can't remember if the old man thought it was
funny but myself and the crew thought it was a big joke.
I remember the dory that "Chips" made for me. Also when I we left
the ship in Halifax he gave me a tank that he had made for me. It
was green and had wheels and a turret that I could climb into and
drive the tank. I was the envy of my friends on Vernon Street.
I guess the most memorable part of the whole thing was that I had
spent so much time with the crew that I had picked up quite a
remarkable vocabulary. When I went to Grade 1 at LeMarchant School
that year my teacher's punishment for being bad was that you would
have to sit behind the piano. I spent a lot of time behind the piano
my first year of school for uttering bad words.
Angus Cross, August 10th., 2000.
SS Ottawa Valley Home Port - Montreal,
Canada, Owners - MANZ Line ( Montreal Australia New Zealand Shipping
Company ) Angus S. Cross
Editor: On behalf of everyone who will come
to read your story, thank you. I really appreciate the time you took
in reading the diary and then transferring it in to legible typing.
Thank you for sharing Angus. |
angus@hfx.eastlink.ca
10.07.02
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Hello, my name is Bernadette Cozins and I have taken a year off work
to write a book based on 7 generations of my maternal family
starting with my great great grandmother through to my own grand
daughter. My great grandmother emigrated from Ireland to New Zealand
in 1878 settling in Winton Southland. She left behind her firstborn
(my grandmother) because she developed chicken pox before they
embarked. My grandmother did not get to meet her own parents or
younger brothers and sisters until she was 38 years and had 5
children of her own (my mother being one) They left Ireland in 1916
on a ship that left the Port of London the day after the Luisitania
was torpedoed by the German Navy. I am interested in any information
of conditions for passengers traveling as immigrants, how long the
voyage would take in 1878 and in 1916 and the names of ships that
would have been in service at those times.
Unfortunately, as is usually the case, now that I finally get around
to this life long dream, all family members who could help are no
longer living. I would be grateful for any help. Bernadette Cozins |
bcoz@optusnet.com.au
10 / 07 / 02
|
In 1947/48 I joined the refrigerated ship SS Northumberland in
Auckland as a Junior Engineer and sailed on her for about 18 months
until I had sufficient time in for my 2nd Class Engineers
certificate after which I left the Company to join another ship as
second Engineer. I have to give a life and times talk to my Probus
Club in Lower Hutt NZ in a few weeks and intend spending a bit of
time referring back to the Northumberland days. Perhaps you know of
a site on the Web where I may find some specific info on the ship,
(for instance the machinery installation), as distinct from the
basic details you provide. If so would you please advise. I also
spent a bit of time on the Kent and Tekoa while on standby during
those days. Although they were all, including the Northumberland,
ancient and slow with shocking conditions compared to today, they
were extremely reliable gave the NZS Co., great service.
An ommission I notice on your site is the NZS Co., SS Samkey. She
was an ex Liberty ship and disappeared with all hands in the
Caribbean area while I was at sea during my first voyage. Despite
endless searching not a trace of her was, as I recall, ever found. I
remember the disaster well because there was so much talk about it
among the deck/engineering officers on the Northumberland who might
have known members of the crew aboard the Samkey. Probably you are
familiar with the case? Regards, John Griffiths. |
j-sgriffiths@paradise.net.nz
14.07.02
|
I sailed in the mv Rangitata as a passenger from New York to
Liverpool in October of 1944. She was a troopship and there were
1200 of us aboard. We started off in a convoy of 120 ships and the
voyage lasted just short of three weeks. It was by no means a
pleasant trip. The convoy was attacked by submarines, several depth
charges were heard and felt not too many yards away from us, we were
strafed by "bandit" jerry fighters and we had a collision with
another ship half way across.
I have often wondered about the fate of the Rangitata. Is there any
information available as to her final resting place and when she
concluded active service as a passenger vessel ? Graeme Roberts
804---6880 Wallace Drive Brentwood Bay, B.C. Canada V8M 1N8 tel:
250-544-4811 fax: 250-544-4822 |
willowbrook@shaw.ca
21.07.02
|
Hello everybody. Just found the site, and it is very interesting to
read all the comments of some really good ships. My name is BILL
NADIN and I served with NZSCo from May 1957- December 1960. I was
Engineer on Haparangi - Nottingham - Rangitata - Cumberland. In my
time on the Haparangi, we did the run to Galveston to pick up the
cargo from the Durham, We were there about 6 weeks and saw quite a
few places. Some of us got very friendly with a family called
ANDERSON, The father played the organ on the pier.
While on the Nottingham I had to prospone my wedding twice because
we got held up in China, Christmas day 1958 we had a boat race while
at anchor in Shanghi, We managed to get back home 2 days before my
wedding on 14th February. The old RANGITATA brings back some good
memories. Its nice to read peoples comments about their time with
NZSCo, I don't think I heard anything really bad about the ships. If
anybody remembers me please give me a call. BILL NADIN |
bill.nadin@ntlworld.com
23.07.02
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I would like some information on the sailing ship "Duneden" which
went down about 1890, Master of ship was Arthur Roberts. Thank you
Jean Jenkinson. |
chelseaj@shaw.ca
25.07.02
|
I am looking for information regarding the ship Elingamite. The only
information I have concerns its last voyage from Sydney to Auckland
when it was wrecked on the Three Kings Rocks at the top of the North
Island of New Zealand. The information I need concerns any voyages
the Elingamite may have made from either Auckland or Wellington to
Sydney in the years from 1895 to 1902, the year it sank. I have been
told that my grandmother Nellie Oldrey travelled to Australia on the
Elingamite but have been unable to find any records of its voyages,
other than the last one. I'm not sure whether she travelled alone,
or whether she travelled in the company of her mother and
stepfather, a Mr Newman. If possible I would like to know how I can
access passenger lists that may have her name on them. Any help
would be appreciated. Margaret Pryor |
mothermagoo@bigpond.com
25.07.02
|
Editor: I have had 3 emails in 2 days
requesting passenger lists of ships that came into NZ in the 1840's
to 1930's. None of these requests have any relationship what so ever
with the History of NZ Shipping. Can I therefore ask that anybody
reading with a similar request direct their inquiries to a)
Alexander Turnbull Library in Wellington or b) Auckland Maritime
Museum
Its either that or I charge A$30.00 for such requests to go on this
page.
I simply do this as a love job in amongst my business activities.
Thank you |
|
Dear Jeff, Thank you so much for your prompt reply to my request for
information on the "Elingamite". I'm a novice at using the internet
and stumbled onto the site where I submitted my request. I must
admit that I wasn't really expecting a response and was pleasantly
surprised to find yours when I accessed my mail today. I will follow
up your suggestions and hopefully find a few more pieces for my
jigsaw puzzle. Thanks once again, Margaret |
mothermagoo@bigpond.com
26.07.02
|
I came across your site when searching the internet for details of
MV Otaio, which I now see was sunk in 1941. The reason for my search
was because I have a rather good framed photograph of Otaio, bandw
except for her funnel and derricks, which are coloured yellow. She
is at anchor somewhere. The mount for the picture attributes it to
"D Harris, 94 St Elmo Avenue, Swansea". Whether this is Swansea in
Wales or another in Australasia I do not know. My father was a chief
engineer during the war. The picture was amongst his belongings.
Whether or not he served on Otaio I do not know, but he does have
the Atlantic and Pacific stars so I suppose it is possible. My
mother and father spilt up in the 50s while I was quite young but I
do know he was at sea for the duration of the war. A harrowing time
it must have been - as his collection of books about the war and
history of shipping indicate. If the picture is of interest please
let me know and I will try to get a copy to you. James King North
Berwick Scotland |
jaking@globalnet.co.uk
28.07.02
|
I would like any information on the boat Ruahine which traveled to
New Zealand from England in 1926. Which port it arrived in,
Passenger list etc. Also trying ot find about my grandparents which
traveled on the Ruahine to New Zealand. Name is Thomas Tiplady and
wife Racheal Tiplady nee Lilburn. They settled in the south of the
south island in NZ, until there death. They have 7 children which 6
are still alive and live in NZ. Any information would be great.
Thanks Sonia Tiplady |
sonia.mat@xtra.co.nz
27.02.02
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1920 George William Slack Arrived in New Zealand aboard the New
Zealand Shipping Company vessel the RUAHINE 1909 – 1949 Being the
second vessel of that name weighting 10,832 tons was when build the
company’s largest ship. Able to accommodate 520 passengers in four
classes, the RUAHINE survived two world wars and served out her
years trooping and carrying emigrants. Sold to Italy in 1949, she
was broken up five years later. [The first RUAHINE was built at
Dumbarton Scotland in 1891. She was 6127 tons and 131 metres long.
With a much larger cargo capacity than the New Zealand Shipping
Company’s original steamers, and ample passenger accommodation, she
was the shape of things to come. The family of the Slack's consisted
of My Mother, Letitia Constance Slack, with parents, George William
Slack and wife Letitia [Riley] - Slack. Arrived in New Zealand
aboard the Ruahine. There was no constructed port of call and and
each passenger had to be winched off board by a bosun's chair. At
the top of the hill a horse was walking in circles pulling in the
rope attached to the Bosun's chair. On board Mother made friends
with a girl named Fay, when told one day she could not go on deck
she saw people putting something over the side, and was told Fay had
died from seasickness. George William Slack had been a stocker in
His Majesty's Navy. He had been torpedoed three times the last time
concussion took away his memory. He had been found in the water
still with his Bosun Mates hat on with number 8 on the brim. He was
taken to Gibralter and remained there 3 years till they discovered
his identity and reunited with his wife, Letitiia who he never knew
form a bar of soap. Then one day he had a stroke and his memory came
back, but from then on he was paralyzed down one side and remained
in hospital until he died several years later Grandad use to work on
the railroads making the beds to support the rails, starting at Rye
Valley up to Picton, Wellington through the Wairapa, till it was
completed at Waihi. Where he had to wear a side arm revolver because
of the Gold and the many criminals liable to treachery. Many gold
mines collapsed, and the railway house at Waihi was sinking in one
corner, and they had to move.
Is there any passenger lists of the Ruahine for around 1920 ? I have
wonder too about who Fay was, the Captain would have had to record
her demise and burial at sea. regards Robert Todd Porter |
heretaunga_2000@yahoo.co.nz
31.07.02
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I am wanting to know about the Rangitiki that sailed to the U.K
about 17th October 1957. My mother brother and myself set sail to
the U.K. and I would like to know whether we sailed from Auckland or
Wellington. I think it was the last sailing of the ship. Please
could you help me with any information. We returned to N.Z. on the
Rangitoto to Wellington on the 14th April 1959 It would be much
appreciated if you could give me any information. My mothers name is
Mrs Joyce Robertson my brother is Shannon Neil Robertson and my name
was Gillian Adele Robertson. If you are unable to send me the
information, could you email me what I could do to find out.
Thanking you for your time and I await your reply. Gillian Morrison |
gillybean@xtra.co.nz
31.07.02
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Hi, I posted an email to your site back in January, which I did not
quite finish off. After leaving nzsc I worked my passage to New
Zealand on the mv waitaki in may 1964 (ex mv whakatane ?) this
vessel had been sold by the nzsc to the union steam ship company of
NZ and I was the electrical officer for this voyage. Norrie Cumming |
cummingkt@aol.com
01.08.02
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I am trying to find a crew member that was on the Cumberland; it was
in Lyttelton, Christchurch, around January 1972.His name is Terry
Clark(e) and I believe he is Scottish.If anyone has any information
on this person or knows where I might find such information it would
be greatly appreciated. |
twidlefamily@maxnet.co.nz
04.08.02
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I am trying to find information on the Schooner named "Surprise "
which was the first ship to go up the Wanganui River in 1820. It was
owned by Jock Mc Gregor of Wellington . I would like to find out
where the ship originally came from and what year. Any information
would be appreciated. Andrew Wiringi |
ginay@austarnet.com.au
07.08.02
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On behalf of my uncle, Frank
Ellison, I am trying to locate John Thompson, originally from Bootle
who sailed with Frank on the RMS Rangitane in 1940 when it was sunk
by the German raider Orion in the Pacific. Also trying to locate
Charlie Grant (C. H. Grant) originally from Bristol who was sunk on
the Afica Star. Frank, John and Charlie were all interned in the
Milag Nord POW camp in Germany until the end of the war. Any leads
would be most appreciated. Trevor Bell |
thebells@btinternet.com
10.08.02
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My Dad was a Master in the New Zealand Shipping Company 1961-71. He
joined the Company as a cadet in 1947, He is still shouting orders
down the corridor at home. I scoured his library and found 9
publications re the NZS.
1. Ships of the New Zealand Shipping Company. by Gavin McLean ISBN
0477 00015 0
2. Clipper Ship to Motor Liner. by Sydney D Waters
3. Ordeal By Sea. Sydney D Waters
4. Sailing Ships of the NZS. By Alan Bott ISBN 07134 0467 1
5 Ships in Focus. by John Clarkson and Fenton. ISBN0952117959
6. Crossed Flags. Laxon, Farquhar, Kirby and Perry ISBN 0905617 878
7. A Tale of Two Tankers. by John Russell ISBN 0953854620
8. Merchant Fleets. by Duncan Hawes ISBN 0946378 11 8
9. A Pinch of Salt. By John Agnew and John Russell. ISBN 0953854604
My Father was, and still is
Captain G.W. McCathie RD* RNR Ret. He can be contacted via my Email,
by colleagues and interested parties. Tom McCathie |
Cosmord@screenactors.com.au
10.08.02
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Have just come across this
site, what a great place Jeff. I'm afraid I don't have any
information to offer, just a query. I'm researching my husband's
father whom he never knew, we are trying to track the years between
1918 when he married and the 1930's when he left NZ for Australia
and never returned. His name was Claude Milne, he was born in 1899
and we understand that he did his apprenticeship with NZ Shipping as
an Engineer, we weren't given any dates but I assume it would have
been sometime from 1918 - mid 1920's.
Would anyone be able to direct me as to where I might find the
records of such an apprenticeship. Thanking you in advance. Sue
Blight - Western Australia
Editor: I have a solution you
can ring and set up a telephone appointment at A$50.00 for 30
minutes to 1 hour and speak with Kerry she is a gifted medium. Your
husbands father will give her the details that you seek and she in
turn can pass them onto you. That's provided he hasn't reincarnated
back into your family which quite often happens. Her phone number is
07 3299 5588 Monday to Friday 8 am to 4 pm Australian East Coast
Standard Time (no daylight saving in Qld) |
bottlebrushcorner@bigpond.com
11.08.02
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My Grandfather emigrated to
Australia in November 1910 on the Rimutaka. I am looking for any
information about the ship it's living conditions ( The manifest
shows food for 600 people, yet only cabins for 240 ) and possibly
how much it cost for him and his family to emigrate. Any one know
where i can get information on this voyage/ship? Mandy Edlin Gulley |
edlin1@flash.net
12.08.02
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I had the pleasure of sailing
aboard the MV Otaio as a deck cadet from July'74 until July '75, I
also sailed aboard the MV Mataura from Jan until August '76.I had a
wonderful time, and even though both ships were now under the P and
O GCD Banner, the feeling aboard was very much NZS.
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who sailed aboard
these vessels during this period. I went on to sail as third mate on
the Container fleets ships Moreton Bay and Jervis Bay from 1978 to
1980. Many thanks for your excellent site Regards Rob Arlington. |
Robarlington1@AOL.com
13.08.02
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Hi there My name is Ron (ZULU)
Warman. While I spent most of my short ( but bizarre and would not
have missed it for quids ) career in the Merchant Navy( 61 to
64)with other shipping companies my best memories are still in the
short time I spent on MV Durham MV Hinakura.
If anyone out there still remembers my contribution to having a good
time then please contact me. (if I still owe them or they owe me a
sub which is unlikely just forget it !)
Incidentally if anyone out there has a decent photo/pix of the MV
Durham I would appreciate it.
Congrats on a great web site and if there is a "DURHAM " Club in
Australia please let me know, Cheers "ZULU " Ron Warman |
poweraccess24@hotmail.com
14.08.02
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Joined NZSCo July 1963 (Eng
Schoolie - 'Otaio') left at end of Oct 1970 for Poplar until '72.
Great job and cadets, great ship, great company.
I am in touch with several old friends from those days: Peter Wright
(Ch. Freezer); Bill Bain (Ch. Eng); Peter Milburn (Deck
Schoolie/Mate); Charles Turner (Mate; Peter Heald (Radio); John
Mitchell (Eng Schoolie); David Bissland (Eng Cadet) and recently
John Boxall (Eng Cadet).
Dive time between Cumbria (UK) and Lyttelton (NZ) 2 to 3 months each
year.
Have names of all the cadets and officers who served on 'Otaio' in
my time and copies of the 'all's well' telegrams, plus other bits
and pieces, photos, etc. Excellent web-site - well done. Jack Giles |
giles_dhouse@compuserve.com
15.08.02
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We have a swivel captains chair
with the initials NZSc in a central crest. It stands on a centrally
attached gold coloured iron tripod foot of what we think are
dolphins. Is there any way we can trace the ship it came from. The
frame of the chair is probably mahogany and there is a carved flower
centrally at the back. Can you suggest how we could find out more
about it? Thank alot. |
crisdodridge@hotmail.com
21.08.02
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I have nine old photographs of
the M.V. Opawa's engine room that were taken by my father in 1938.
If anyone is interested in them for archival purposes I will gladly
e-mail them to you. Each photo has the details written on the back
of it. My father, David McLeod, is still alive and we live on
Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada. David McLeod |
dmcleod@shaw.ca
04.09.02
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Please excuse my complete lack
of naval knowledge on naval matters but can somebody explain the
difference between a Captain and a Master. In a previous posting I
said that I was trying to find somebody from the Rangitane sunk by
raiders in 1940. I am compiling a list of Rangitane crew and
passengers from various sources (now standing at 80 of the original
300+) and have found a Captain Upton who was Captain and Captain
Marshall who was Master. What is the difference? Trevor Bell |
thebells@btinternet.com
05.09.02
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Dear Mr. Shaw, here are the first four of the photographs of which I
told you earlier. I am sending them in a moderate size and quality
suitable for printing but they will be to big for posting on a web
site. It was done this way to give you the option of doing with them
what you will. It should be simple to reduce the pixel per inch
count to make them smaller for your web site. I hope that this is
not too much of an inconvenience.
All of the photos are dated 1938. My father has fond memories of
this ship and repeatedly says it was the 'happiest' ship he ever
sailed on. After he left the Opawa he returned to Dundee, Scotland
and sailed on tankers for the duration of the war. He gave up the
sea in 1945. He 'discovered' Canada's west coast while sailing with
the Royal Mail Line.
The details on the back of each photograph is as follows:
port side main engine controls - Controls for port side main
engine (BL/INJ) Sulzer s/chgd 2str 9 cyl + 2 scav pumps
and twin comp. ea shaft (total 13 throws p/shaft)
Aft main engines - looking aft between main
engines from control platform builders - Harlands,
Belfastacross main eng control - view across
main eng control platform. T.screw Sulzer 2str bl/inj
s/chgd
Main Engine tops - main engine tops (from
w/shop door) looking aft
I hope you find these photos satisfactory.
Dave McLeod
Comox, BC
Editor: We have set the photos up on
Opawa 1931 - 42 you can click or just scroll back up the page,
look in the left hand margin and click photos of New Zealand
Shipping |
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I have just found your site,
its great, took me back years when reading about the Rangi Ships. My
late husband was a "boy" on the Pamir on trips 3 and 4 when she
sailed out of Wellington. What a wonderful job you have done keeping
this all together Regards June Evans |
junejevans@hotmail.com
10.09.02
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Where can I find the ships of
the union steamship co, in ww2 Dave Evans |
aveevans1947@hotmail.com10
/ 09 / 02
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Hi I just found your site a
couple of days ago. The best trips of my short career were aboard
the "Hertford" March to July 1961 and "Wharanui" Oct.'61 to Apr.'63.
I still have the Wharanui's Track Chart for the Auckland to Norfolk
Va, USA leg. Keep up the good work. Michael (Mick) Taylor |
moktay@hollinet.com
15.09.02
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Hello, Frank McKay here. I
sailed on NZS Ships under the guise of Pand O GCD.
"TEKOA" 1972 UK to South
America (E. Coast) with, if memory serves, Capt. Fred Angus, Ch. Eng
Paddy McClurg, 2/Eng Duncan McLarty, 3/Eng Malcolm (Tot) Scott, 4/E
Harry (Mary) Baker, etc. Then.......
"HUNTINGDON" - U.K. Coastal in
'74. Followed by a long, long, time on .......
"SOMERSET" - June '74 to Jan
'76 - too many names to mention.
I have a reasonable scanned
photo of the Somerset - would it be possible to upload for this site
?
Greetings to any old (and
not-so-old) shipmates who may read this. Frank McKay |
mckayfrank@hotmail.com
24.09.02
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Thanks for your reply, Here is
the photo (reduced in size for the web) of the Somerset for the
site. Keep up the good work. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be !
Frank McKay |
mckayfrank@hotmail.com
25.09.02
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what became of the TURAKINA
which was built in 1960, transfered to Federal Line in 1973 and
later sold to P and O ? |
jimharlbeach@att.net
25.09.02
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Worked on the Hauraki 1969.
Wellington to London. New Zealand shipping company. Purchased by P
and O. Any information on this please. Regards Stephen Vickers |
kiwivick@bigpond.com
26.09.02
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Editor We have gone to a new T 3 server which
can handle 100,000 global customers at once hence the delays in
putting up comments. |
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In October of 1944 I sailed
along with 1200 others on board the SS Rangitata from New York to
Liverpool. The only persons I remember were Vivien Leigh's daughter
whose name I have forgotten and a chap by the name of Clive Baxter
and his sister, Meribah whose father was Beverly Baxter a well known
journalist who worked for Lord Beaverbrook. I am hoping to find
somebody "out there" who might have been on that same voage ? We
were in a convoy of 120 ships to begin with and it took us three
weeks to get from New York to Liverpool via the Azores. Cheers !
Graeme Roberts Victoria, British Columbia, Canada |
willowbrook@shaw.ca
15.10.02
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Essex Havard re M. V. Kaimata.
Have attempted to contact you on several occasions but messages are
being rejected. Sid Le Quesne. |
spleq@xtra.co.nz
17.10.02
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My grandfather, Charles William
Erwood, was a ship's steward who, I am led to understand, sailed
regularly between Britain and New Zealand until he ended up living
in New Zealand in 1914. In 1936, at the age of 44, he is believed to
have resumed his career in the merchant navy. Does his name ring a
bell with anyone ? Sally Erwood-Carryer |
jubilee276@iprimus.com.au
18.10.02
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I served on the Northumberland
from march 1964 to may 1965.I was a junior engineer.
I have been looking for a web page on N.Z.S co for a while now and
stumbled across this one by accident and I am so glad I did. It's a
beaut set up.
I left the N.Z.S in 66 and worked ashore for 10 years..
Got itchy feet and joined the Australian Merchant Navy.
Retired in 1992.Looking for any old ship mates including Bob Fisher,
Len Byford, Don Mckenzie, and Ewan Cunningham and anyone else that
was there, I would love to hear from them.
At the time my nickname was pepi.
Regards Peter McManus |
snughbr@myallcoast.net.au
22.10.02
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This letter was from son Robert Smith to his father, WAW Smith after
returning to England from Waipawa. Typed by Kevin Breyley-Smith
(descendant of WAW) from a handwritten transcript by Graeme
Lawrence, (WAW descendant), who discovered the letter in a biscuit
tin, in the outside laundry along with other correspondence between
members of the legal first family of W.A.W. Smith and the bigamously
achieved second family in New Zealand.
The recipient Dear Sir, Our Father, (William A.W. Smith) had
disappeared, having left London in 1853, arriving in Geelong on
February 14, 1854, as navigator aboard the Phoenix. He disappeared
without trace for many years. The family believed him dead until by
an incredible fluke, a new arrival on a West Australian railway
construction who had met W.A.W. Smith in New Zealand, bumped into
his nephew, giving him the incredible news that his grandfather was
alive in Waipawa. He wrote home informing the family of his
discovery. William Smith’s son Robert travelled out by steamer,
caught the train to Waipawa and found that it was, to his amazement,
so. His father had sailed to New Zealand 42 years before whereas now
Robert was able to use publicly available transport from door to
door: train, steamer and train from, London, to Waipawa. Robert had
been a boy when his father had left the London quayside for three
years to “redeem all that has been sacrificed for me”. His father
recognised him and acknowledged him as his son. This transcript is
an account of Robert’s voyage home.
14 Lee Street
Plumstead
England
17the June 1887
Dear Sir, Our Father,
I hope you learned of the safe arrival of the
Aorangi at Rio de Janeiro and Plymouth through the medium of your
newspapers, and hence my reaching England. There was nothing of any
moment to note of the voyage beyond the fogs, damp and icebergs,
till we rounded Cape Horn and passed the Falklands, one of which we
saw quite plainly. The harbour of Rio we made about 3 pm on our
twenty-first day and I went ashore with some of our passengers but
was too late for the celebrated Botanical Gardens and the Grand
Grove of Palm Trees. I had dinner and walked about the ten till past
10 pm, and then off to the ship. Next morning I had a bad headache
and vomited a little and was altogether too ill to keep up the
departure let alone to go ashore again in the morning as intended.
By tea time I was able to take a cup of tea and so got right again.
Not so however a very large number of our passengers and officers to
the Captain to some of the stewards who all had a turn of vomit and
cramps keeping the Doctor well in practice. This lasted with some
for nearly a fortnight. The Second Officer said half of us would
have had the fever if we had stayed there another day. So after all
I came off very well. All through the tropics we had the good
fortune of a slight breeze against us which did not help our running
but kept us cooler than we should otherwise have been and as it
increased in force as we neared Europe, our running came under three
hundred miles a day for the first time during the voyage till we
sighted Cape Finnisterre and finally the Eddystone Light about
half-past eleven p.m. on Saturday night, thirty-seven days out from
Wellington. That was another splendid run for our ship, she, beating
the Ionic by nearly three days. Our run up the Channel was very
unpleasant in foggy weather and half a gale blowing the fog becoming
so thick that we dropped anchor off Dumferness (?) till break of day
completing our journey up to the docks through nasty drizzling rain
and I reached home to find my wife and family reasonably well taking
all things into consideration. My wife has, however, since my
arrival, brought another son to my already far too large a family.
Unfortunately I have not got anything to do , neither do I see much
prospect of obtaining any. The country is excited over that old
humbug of a Gladstone and his Irish measures, which has forced on
another election and causes a general upset to most business. Sarah
called on me a day or two after I was home and I gave her one of
your photos I brought home and we had a chat about you. But I did
not give a graphic account of all and recommended her to go over to
see you. That
suggestion I am afraid will never be acted upon but she would not
mind paying a share of the expenses if I had brought you to the old
country so she said. Haywood I have not seen for three weeks and I
think it rather strange as I then called upon him. I was very sorry
to hear of the volcanic disturbance with the loss of life [the
Tarawa Eruption – June 10th 1886] and am afraid you at Waipawa must
have experienced some of its effects. But I earnestly hope without
any ill effects.
I want to send you a photo of myself and wife but her’s and
the weather’s condition do not permit. That however is in the future
and perhaps I may bring it with me if I leave here for N.Z. at the
end of August as I shall in all probability do unless I get into a
job of some sort. So if you can suggest something by the time I
reach there it may be acceptable. And now as my paper is very short
I must quietly close. With the very best wished for you and yours at
the antipodes. Sincerely hoping that health may be spared you –
Peace be with you and prosperity attend you and your new family’s
every effort. With the kindness of thoughts and wishes for all your
new children from one of the old. And remembrance to Mr. Ben
Johnson, Mr. Jull, the Station Master, the porter, also Mr. Quinlan,
{?} auctioneer, Mr Britten the butcher and every other one I may
have made acquaintance with during my short stay at Waipawa. Hoping
ultimately to see you again, I am your Loving Son, Robert
Dear Jeffrey,
Thank-you for your response. I
just want people to enjoy the wonderful glimpse into the past of the
voyage of my grandfather's half-brother, seeking his bigamous and
disappeared father. If you think it's a good idea I will further
improve the context of this letter for you but I am sending it now
so you can see it and post it on the site. Regards, Kevin
Breyley-Smith
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pooh.junction@optusnet.com.au
5.11.02
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How is it, that I can remember
my first trip to sea but absolutely nothing of my last ?.
I joined the M.V.Suffolk at
Gladstone dock, Liverpool in August 1957 as Junior Engineer, I can
remember going up the gang plank as if it were yesterday; an old
docker passed me as I was going on board and asked if I was sailing
on her, when I said I was, he remarked that he wished that he was.
We sailed for Auckland a few
days later, the Chief Eng. was Jones, 2nd was Mullen a Geordie who
told me straight away that he didn't like Scousers, 3rd was
Humphrey's from Cardiff, I believe, the 4th was George Mac from
Barrow and the 5th was big Ernie another Geordie. The rest of us
Juniors included Bob from Glasgow, 'Kiwi'John Macnamara who taught
us the Haka: Jimmy Quinn from Clydebank and Kenny Latimer from
Annan. Other lads I remember were Spike the Radio and Allister
Campbell the 3rd Elect. Also Ben Bernard the 2nd Fridge Eng., the
only other one besides myself from Liverpool.
I survived the first few weeks
but after sea sickness and doing a hammer test in one of main
engines, crank cases at Curacao it was a near do. Finally we arrived
in Auckland and berthed at Jericho wharf, miles from anywhere.
We stayed in Auckland for about
6 weeks before sailing to Wellington and then New Plymouth ( I was
absolutely fascinated at the sight of Mount Egmont) from there we
went to Opua in the Bay of Islands the first large vessel to go
there since before W.W.2 We had fine time there, a great party at
the Harbour Masters house was particularly remembered also a trip
around the Bay in a pleasure boat was fantastic. Our visit to Opua
was recorded in the Auckland Weekly News with lots of pictures,I
had a copy of it until recently but I am afraid it did not survive a
house move.
Later that trip we called in to
Napier and Bluff were I was transferred to the fridge as 3rd Fridge
Eng. and in this elevated capacity we sailed back to London just in
time to encounter the Dock strike, swinging off the hook at Southend
for about two weeks waiting to go in.
I stayed on the Suffolk for two
more trips in between spending some great months laid-up in the Fal
by the King Harry ferry. I then sailed one trip on the Rangitata and
then did a 12 month stint on the Whakatane as 3rd Eng.
After this I joined Cunard, got
married got my 2nd's ticket and sailed on the Carinthia, Queen
Elizabeth, Brescia and eventually the Samaria which had an
Air-conditioned control room from which you maneuvered the engine
with small keys not like the great huge lever's that we had on the
Suffolk
My name is Frank Kennedy and I
would be absolutely delighted if any one remembers me and gets in
touch via E mail. |
frank@kennedy6838.freeserve.co.uk
6 .11.02
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I was on the Toto from
1959-1961, utility steward then stewards messman with other taff
John Everson, memories now, written as they come to mind....Capt. I
W.Fulcher, extra second Don Bagley, Arthur the Captains Tiger, Danny
Mc Gee, Brian Lofty hall 2nd butcher, Larry the linen steward,
Felicity, horse face the baker who was glassed in Tahiti, so many of
them....Tahiti when they were making the film..mutiny on the bounty
along with Freddy from Southend and Canada. I was in the car with
Trevor Howard the film star and the island police arrested us after
he had banged into lots of parked cars in his drunken state and we
went for a ride with him....enough reminiscing.. if any body
remembers please get in touch.. Dai (Taff) Richards |
rdavid620@aol.com.uk
7.11.02
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Editor: I have started to receive emails which contain unsolicited
suggestions or overtones of New Zealand Shipping memorabilia for
sale. This section is not a FREE advertising bill board for such
things.
It's about sharing with others your time at sea and on shore.
I give my time for free as do you, the contributors.. Perhaps it may
be time to set up another page entitled memorabilia for sale and
charge an advertising fee, like newspapers do with their
classifieds. (I would be interested in any feedback) |
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I was a cadet on the Rakaia
from 1961 to 1964, and I have just acquired a painting of the Rakaia
leaving Nelson by Robert G Lloyd.
I am thinking of putting together a book on life aboard the NZSCo
Cadet Ships, and so I would be delighted to receive any anecdotes
from those who sailed on the Durham, Otaio and Rakaia.
I have already received some encouragement from members of the
Durham association, including the Secretary, Des Jones, for my idea
of producing a book of anecdotes about life aboard the cadet ships,
and so I would very much appreciate using your web site as means for
obtaining some of these. Paul Wood |
pwal@btinternet.com
8.11.02
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Is there any way I can find a
passenger list from m.v. Ruahine which sailed from Kings Cross,
England in 1915. My mother was on it and I would like to search of
how many family members came with her. She was a child of 4 and is
now 92. Thank you for your help |
jenny.lane@active2001.co.nz
9.11.02
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Can anyone please provide me
with technical information about the main engine on the M.V. Rakaia?
My research so far shows that it was a 2 cycle double acting
Burmeister and Wain type engine with 8 cylinders with a bore of 550
mm and a stroke of 1200 + 400 mm. It was apparently started by
compressed air, and it had a BHP of 7500 at 115 rpm.
As a cadet on Rakaia, I remember being fascinated by this engine
every time I was allowed into the engine room - usually when I acted
as Carpenter's Mate.
However, all my attempts at finding pictures of this or a similar
engine together with details of its construction have led no where.
I would much appreciate help on this. Paul Wood |
pwal@btinternet.com
12.11.02
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i would like confirmation about Charles and Elizabeth Cutts along
with 8 of there children were passengers on board the Hororata which
sailed from England and arrived in New Zealand 10-04-1926 lots
of thanks Alison Toopi |
ipoot@msn.com
16.11.02
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Hi my name is Peter Ellerton
from Darlington Co Durham and i sailed on the Rangitoto during 1964
from the Royal Albert docks London. I made friends with John the
kiwi and Ian Wilson from Lanarkshire Scotland. We had some great
times but the second engineer didn't seem to like people from up
north so he gave us a hard time. I once remember that when in the
tropics he had the three of us dress in our blues and find in the
engine room the oil pressure release valve we found it just before
we were about to collapse with heat .It would be nice to hear from
engineers on the Rangitoto at this time, i still have some
memorabilia of the ship and some old dinner menus.
Editor .. No email address was
sent with this email. Perhaps Peter if you get around to reading
this .. you will revert with details |
15.11.02
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I'm hoping for some or any
information on a ship called Karhu, it had an altercation with
another ship called the Pacific Liberty. The time would have been
around 1944. My father who has now passed away was from New Zealand
and stayed in Australia when the ship came into port. The reason I'm
asking is that we have no history of dad and would love to trace his
family and travel over to meet them. A long shot is he lived in
Wonganuoi near the brick works and his name ( Donald Thorpe )
Regards Scott Thorpe
Editor Scott could be referring to Wanganui
and this email he gave us doesn't work
ScottThopre@bhp.com.au |
23.11.02
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Further to my previous
postings, I have started a simple web site telling the story of the
RMS Rangitane and the events leading up to and after her sinking by
German raiders in 1940. Also on the site is a complete crew and
passenger list compiled from a number of sources. I would be
grateful for any feedback to add to, or correct, anything on the
site.
http://www.thebells.btinternet.co.uk/rangitane/
Trevor Bell |
thebells@btinternet.com
29.11.02
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I Have a small sailor type doll
that was given to me by my fathers cousin who sailed on or traveled
on M V RANGITOTO.
The doll is dressed in sailor clothes with the name of the ship on
its hat.
My fathers cousins name was Geoff Burdett (des) he was from the
north of England but settled in New Zealand. Any information about
the doll or Geoffs family would be welcome. D Archer |
darcher41@aol.com
3.12.02
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Hi All. I am trying to find a
passenger list (or passenger lists!) for the Ruahine. My family
arrived on it from the UK somewhere between 1923-1926. A couple of
other people are interested in receiving this information also, if
anyone can help it will be sincerely appreciated. Cheers, AnnaLiese
Bishop. |
akbishop@ihug.co.nz
6.12.02
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I sailed with NZS co 1968 -
Sussex, 1969 - Nottingham,1970 - Huntingdon as engineer any body
from that time drop a line. Ian Masson, George Mason 4/e re-Sussex,
Jed Toman re-Nottingham. Barry Stovold |
bstovold@shaw.ca
7.12.02
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Dear Jeffrey Shaw, I have
discovered and read through your amazing site. I especially liked
the extracts describing life on the voyage out to New Zealand by
Jean Cross and the wonderful letter from Robert Smith to his father.
My query relates to my great grandmother, Jane Elliott (formerly
Burge) who was a stewardess on the New Zealand Steamship Co carrying
passengers around the turn of the century. Her mother-in-law was
Elizabeth Vestey and I wonder if that could be how she landed her
job?
I am researching my family history and can only do this through
documents, Regards Gail Hennessy. |
gailan@softcom.net.au
9.12.02
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I am trying to trace anyone who
may have known my father, Kennedy Smith (Kenny), who worked for the
NZSCo between 1960 and 1962. His log no. was R733842. I am
particularly keen to contact anyone who may have sailed with him
whilst on Christmas island. If you have any memories of him at all I
would be very grateful if you would get in touch with me. Callum
Smith |
callum@comlinkswd.org
9.12.02
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My grandfather - Archibald
Hamilton Ryley CBE was a captain at the NZ shipping Company.
According to my father, he was the first person to ride a motor bike
in New Zealand when he rode it off the ship he was skipping onto the
dock at Wellington. He retired in 1920 and joined Trinity House who
run UK's lighthouses. If anyone has any info about AH Ryley please
email me on
john.ryley@BskyB.com. Thanks John Ryley |
john.ryley@BskyB.com
14.12.02
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My father, Thomas Arthur
Edwards (originally from Cardiff) was a chef on board the Rangitiki
(& Rangitata?) before and during the war. He used to call in at
Liverpool and met my mother there (she was working at the
Littlewoods pools building plotting shipping movements and the fates
of their sailors during the war). He never told his shipmates he was
going out with a Liverpool girl as so many of the crew were fleeced
by scouse prostitutes Liverpool girls were not generally liked.
He was lucky in that one of the
ships he was supposed to sail on was torpedoed with great loss of
life in one of the convoys, but he had swapped his place on board
with another sailor so he could spend a few more days in Liverpool.
He always said New Zealand was
the part of the world he would like to have lived in apart from the
UK but never got to live there because I was born in 1946 and it was
round about then he got the ultimatum "It's the sea or me!"
Tom used to say that "It always
pays to keep in with the cook" illustrating this with tales of how
the crew used to come to the galley door to get a warm (& maybe a
bit of extra grub). I think he was involved in baking bread or
vegetables rather than haut cuisine. One major bloomer he used to
mention was when someone put enough rice for everyone in the pot,
forgetting it would swell up. It made enough rice for several days
in one go!!
On leaving the sea he became a
master butcher after volunteering to work for a Mr Maudsley for a
week for free and if he was no good then he'd move on willingly. He
used to buy much of his meat from the market from Weddells - a name
that crops up several times in the NZSC history.
My father died in the mid
1980's and I doubt if there are many folk out there who sailed with
him but my mother & I would be interested to hear if anyone does
remember him or the person he swapped with.
I must finish by saying what a
great site you've got going here.
John Edwards, Solihull, England |
jaejed@hotmail.com
17.12.02
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Thanks very much. your website
is excellent. Ive now found that his first command was the Papanui
in 1909 and his last in 1920 was the Kent in the federal service.
John Ryley |
john.ryley@BskyB.com
17.12.02
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Hello shipping friends, to 12,
November 1939 the sailing Ship JOHN & WINTHROP 319 BRT/1876 build
(the union Steamship company of New Zealand ) and an unknown number
of other ships in the I Tamar River on Iceland Tamar blown up.
Question: Why these ships were
blown up and sunk which other ships was still blown up.
Greetings from Germany
Th. Dorgeist |
Marine-Doku-zen.th.Dorgeisr@Web.de
19.12.02
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Hi to all ex. NZS employee's. I
served with nzs from 1970-74 on the Huntington, Sussex Tongerio, and
many others as Freezer Eng. I am after some information, as to the
ships that were used, as Mother Ships to the Russian Trawlers lying
off Newfoundland. Taking on frozen fish, and taking the cargo to a
Baltic Port ? Good to see this page, brings back many great
memories, to the best days of my life. Regards Nick Clark |
nicholasclarkuk@yahoo.co.uk
28.12.02
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Re John Griffiths 14/07/02
missing info. The Liberty ship Samkey was renamed the Leicester and
in the summer of 1948 sailed for New York from England and ran into
a hurricane and was abandoned (with the loss of six lives) in
mid-atlantic. Captain Lawson I think lived in the Lythe Valley near
Kendal. Best info I have found is in a novel by Farley Mowat, a
gregarious character who comes from the Rock (Newfoundland) who is
not unknown as an entertainer, to turn his back upon the audience
and raise his kilt!
The Book you should look for on
the Leicester is: THE SERPENTS'S COIL by Farley Mowat, published by
Ballantine Books, New York No. 23828 (1961) Library of Congress
Catalog Card number 62-9543 SBN 345-23828-1-125
I believe it was as a result of
this tragedy that all nzsco ships initiated a two radio officer
policy on what was originally single operator ships, until austerity
set in, I think in the early sixties.
A further Book which may be of
interest by the same author GREY SEAS UNDER by Farley Mowat
Ballantine Books Library of congress catalog Card Number 58-11440
SBN 345-23784-6-125
Mike Parker |
mparker@direct.ca
29.12.02
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1941 - MV Sussex. Captain P.B.
Clark(e) Arrived at Liverpool loaded. At Sanford Dock attacked and
shed of meat spoiled. Ship OK. Early Summer. Loaded up and sailed
out, passed Northern Ireland passed Iceland and New Foundland -
Arrived at Curacao, no room inside at Willemmstad. Took outside
loading of Oil. To Colon and Christabel - through Panama Canal to
Balboa. Left took approx 17days for first sight of the three Kings
of the toe of NZ. Into Auckland At the Awettea (?) Key, bottom of
Queen St. To Wellington. There for a month as they put her into dry
dock and steam cleaned. Of in the evening to Napier, Hawkes Bay. One
week in and a few days out for loading. 8 days South and East to
within 100 miles of the South American coast - WHY? As PB Clark told
us aft, " Gentlemen, there are raiders operating in the Pacific, but
the British Navy is there." In fact it was Q ships out of the
Galapagos. Arrived at Balboa waiting in line to go through the
Canal. Upset as two Japanese ships loaded with pig iron and concrete
were holding up the parade. US troops were all over the canal- they
were held back, Note the date ( September 1941) Very rough seas
across the Atlantic saved us from Submarines.
Written by Leonard F. Cobb.
Galley Boy ( 17yrs old.) Great ship - great crew. Proud to have
served. After into RAF 5 odd years. Len |
lenruss@cogeco.ca
30.12.02
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Hi, My name is Bill Harman I
sailed on deck with NZSCo From 1969 [last trip of the Rangitoto]
till 1972 when I jumped the Otaki, in between I was on Paparoa,
Somerset,and Cumberland, I would like to hear from anyone I knew
from those days.A couple of names that spring to mind are .Pete
Woods & Angus Smith, Thanks, great site Bill Harman |
wandj@twpo.com.au
31.12.02
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