Comments for the year 2003
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I am searching for information
about my father who was a sailor from Holland and was returning from
Holland to New Zealand in 1973 to Live. Unfortunately I do not have
much information apart
from his name being Sjaak Van Dyke from Rotterdam Holland. If
anyone would know where I could find information about how to go
about my search it would be greatly appreciated. Helen Dickson
My name is Bruce Hurst, I
joined the New Zealand Shipping co in January of 1957 & sailed as
11th engineer on RMS Rangitata. I did voyage's 78 & 79 on her, next
i went to mv Durham as 6th engineer this is the voyage she broke
both main engine crankshafts & put into Galveston Texas for repairs
we spent 6 months in Galveston, the Haperangi came in & got our
cargo & took it on to NZ after repairs we loaded new cargo on the
east coast of the US & on to Australia I did a couple more voyages
on Durham & then to Huntington & Hertford & coasted Hinakura. These
were all great ships & I had been wondering what happened to them
when I came across your web page. I suppose NZSC is no more, taken
over by P&O then dropped the name. Is all the Lamb & produce from NZ
Exported by air or are there still refrigerated ships being used ?
Bruce A Hurst
Editor Meat is shipped in 20ft or 40ft refrigerated
containers, these specialised shipping containers can have there
temperatures set at minus 28 to carry ice cream or minus 18 for meat
or minus 6 for chilled meat or plus 4 for vegetables or chocolate.
Meat does go air freight and its usually associated with pre cut
packs for hotel trade
Hello Mr Shaw, My name is Paul
Alexander, I joined the NZSCo in Dec '66, MV Otaio, as a Navigation
Cadet, I subsequently served on Pipiriki, Huntington and Hertford,
leaving in'69 to coast smaller ships. I would be interested to find
out any member associations in New Zealand - purely selfish - I
would like to trace a young lady I dated back then.
Incidentally, I came across a chap who had a film of the Otaio taken
on the trip immediately prior to when I joined. (1) Are there any
other copies of that film? (2) Can I bespeak a copy? Paul Alexander
Editor (1) not that we
are aware (2) perhaps some one reading may have a copy. Good luck
with the chickee babe " seek and you shall find " I believe is the
I was on the M V Norfolk as a
J.O.S. Around 1955 and I was hoping that you may know what happened
to her since then. G. Mair.
My late father, Charles
(Charlie) Osborne, served on the M.V.Orari during World War 2 from
1940 to 1945. I am trying to trace the history of the Orari between
those dates. I know she was torpedoed twice and was one of the ships
in the Malta Convoy of July 1942.
Can anyone give me any information on the above actions/events or
any others. I would also like to make contact with any crewmembers
who may have served with my father. Regards Stuart Osborne.
Peter Smart -Cadet Captain MV
Otaio around the 1972 mark! Served and still in contact with Charlie
Payne, Andy Coxon-Smith, Paul Clarke.
We all served as Navigating Officer Cadets from September 1970 until
around 1972/3. Lots of stories to exchange and catch up on. Get in
Thinking of organising a reunion???
Peter Smart / Charlie Payne
Dont forget s.s. Derby, running
Isle of Grain- Mina al a Manie, Kuwait 1962...ish
hi everyone. i trained on the
TS Indefatigable in North Wales during 1962, and then applied to
sail with the Blue Funnel line, but was transferred to NZSc. I
sailed on Piako in 1962, a ship that I grew to love. Our first trip
was down to Montevedeo South America, where usually only Blue Star
boats were seen. Did any anyone sail on this trip, when President
Kennedy was assassinated. My name was Steve Polhill, Liverpool. Get
back to me if you did, or know anyone who did, it would be great to
hear from you.
Ps. i now have a cruiser, 26ft, who is lovingly also called Piako!
get back to me. thank you so much. Steve Polhill
Hello, what a superb site just
found it by trawling. I was a Junior Engineer in P&O GCD days and
have many happy memories of NZSCo's ships. Cumberland, Sussex,
westmorland and Wild Auk. I would be happy to to find some old
shipmates from the period 1974 to 1982 when I transferred to P&O
Ferries on the Channel run. Philip Shackleton.
There was another war
replacement H-boat, the Hauraki, sister to the rest of them
Hi, both my Grandfather, Billy
Buckland (donkeyman) and my Father Frank Buckland (chief
electrician) sailed with the NZSC many moons ago, would love to hear
from anyone who remembers them, Tanya...
SS Horarata : My Grandfather -
Stanly Haines Edwards came out to NZ on the SS Horarata - Left
Southhampton July 16th 1925 on the vessell Horarata. Arrived
Wellington August 18th 1925. Does anyone have any
details/photo's/passenger lists. Mark O'Connor
My family emigrated to New
Zealand aboard MV Tekoa in 1972. We left the UK for Auckland with
all our belongings on board, including the car and cat....
Memories include me winning the
ship's dominoes contest, continuous playing of Bridge over Troubled
Water in the wardroom, my 9th birthday in Curacao and being stopped
shortly after leaving the canal with a shot across the bows by a
Paraguay gun-boat! I think the next day, we were marooned at sea
with a cracked main engine liner.
We arrived safe and sound in
the middle of March, only to end up returning to the UK on the SS
Oriana later in that year.
Does anyone remember this
particular trip? The family name is Lewis and members were Alan,
Esme, Paul and Wendy. Paul Lewis
Above website has some interesting NZSCo information and photos. Len
Kenneth Stewart 1888-1962;
originated from the Isle of Lewis, Scotland, but spent almost all
his life (from pre WW1) at sea, mostly as Boatswain, NZSCo,
certainly pre WW2 until 1953 approx. I am trying to trace any
information about my grandfather or anyone who served with him (I
know of him on the Sussex in '43 and the Rangitoto '54), also my
uncle, his late son, Donald Angus 'D A' Stewart (known to have
served on the Empire Windrush, mid 50s; NZSCo 1950s to 80s approx).
They are both long in their graves now but I would be eternally
indebted for any information received. I would also like to know if
the employee records still exist and if they are accessible?
Regards, Ken Stewart, London
I was second electrician on mv
Hinakra for three voyages during 1962-1963 i am sure she was built
in 1956 and scrapped in early 1980's ( i was living in Durban South
Africa during this time and remember seeing her taking bunkers on
her voyage to the middle for scrap ) i also did one voyage on mv
Otaki and a delivery voyage to New Zealand of the mv Whakatane
(renamed wiaraki) to the union steamship co. regards Norrie Cumming
I have been looking for the
Passenger List for the SS Rimutaka II that off loaded
passengers to Queensland Australia on its was to New Zealand during
1914, apparently my Grandmother said that this ship was chased by a
uboat around the top of Australia, does anyone have anymore
information regarding this information, thanking you, Jenny Reeves
My Grandparents emigrated to
Argentina immediately after their marriage in 1911. My mother, their
daughter was born in Argentina (Huinca Renanco) in June 1912. They
decided to return to England and sailed aboard the R.M.S. Paparoa,
captained by Commander N.E.Bower.
I have the original 'Passenger
List' (Third Saloon) detailing all the passengers who sailed from
Montevideo on July 26 1915.
My mother who was just over 3
years old at the time recalled the Captain being very taken with her
as, according to my grandmother, she reminded Bower of his own
daughter of similar age. Seemingly my mother accompanied the Captain
on his tours of inspection of the ship hand in hand. The only place
she was kept from was the engine room.
As a memento of the trip Bower
gave her an expensive porcelain headed doll he had bought for his
daughter. This was kept until, as happens, my mother in the 1940's
let a friends child play with it. The doll is now no more!
I came across this site in a
moment of doodling and was fascinated to read the history of the
Company. But whilst Paparoa is mentioned it does appear to be a
second 'version' of the original. Can anyone enlighten me as to what
became of the first R.M.S. Paparoa? What port within the UK would it
have sailed into? Does anyone alive today recall the Master's name
I should be enthralled to
receive any news or information, photographs etc
How surprising and interesting
to find this FSNC & NZSC domain - reading through the various
contributions brought back a lot of nostalgic memories.
Congratulations on your fine effort to date.
Born and bred in Liverpool, I was recruited from Grayson Rollo &
Clover Docks, Birkenhead and signed on as Junior Engineer on the
s.s. CORNWALL (OFF.No. 145038) on 13th April 1948.
The fully refrigerated 'CORNWALL', with crew cabins opening to an
outer deck, and of course no air-con, had five Scotch boilers,
turbines, steam driven fridge compressors and all- steam deck
After spending the usual four/five months on the NZ coast (wonderful
place with delightful memories) we were loading frozen cargo in our
final port (Windy Wellington) when fuel oil inadvertently found its
way into the on-line boiler.
Despite frantic efforts, we finally had to sail with four working
boilers on a 49 day 'slow boat' to London, arriving early November
We paid off in Cardiff on 19th November - a skeleton crew were left
on board (including myself) until March 1949 (rough cider was cheap,
so we managed to scrape by !)
'CORNWALL', which I understand had survived bombing during the war,
was finally taken to the breakers yard - so ended my first voyage
and the unexpected last voyage of a fine vessel.
That experience eventually led to some tough questions from the
examiner when up for 2nds Steam (on good advice, I had the foresight
to swat up 'oil in boilers')
My connection continued with NZSC on the steam turbine ships
'PAPANUI' and 'PAPAROA' - but that is another story. Kind regards,
Ken Sayer, 5th May 2003
Thanks for your reply. My wish is to help up
date the NZSCo page. I was radio officer in the "Cornwall", not
listed , because it was the old Cornwall, built 1926, and then in
the "Orari", also not listed, I cant think why. I have good photos
of both these ships sailing under the Sydney Harbour Bridge, circa
1946. Since I do not possess a scanner, would be happy to send
colour prints to your nominated address. Alistair J Maskelyne
Dear Sir, I enclose a photo of the M.V. Hauraki taken at Bluff NZ in
February 1963 at the opening of the new conveyor system and cold
house, Hauraki is dressed overall as the first ship to use this new
system. I was a engineer on Hauraki at the time. Best Wishes to all
John Randles. Also a picture of the Sutcliffe family I used to stay
with in Torbay Auckland
Editor: When I get some time will put photo
Hi all, I am trying to find
information and particularly passenger lists for the SS Ruahine on
which my Grandfather sailed to NZ around 1928/29. If anyone can help
me in this it would be much appreciated. Cheers, Elizabeth
I am hoping that somebody knows
the answer to this question: the 1929 Rangi boats (Rangitane,
Rangitiki, Rangitata) all have 2 funnels. They were identical design
and were diesel powered. In every photo I have seen of these ships,
only the aft funnel is showing smoke and on a recently acquired
plan, the engine room is shown directly under the aft funnel. Does
this mean that the forward funnel was only cosmetic? I recall that
Titanic only needed 3 funnels and a 4th was added to make her look
more powerful. I hope that you can incl Trevor Bell
I would like confirmation about
Charles and Elizabeth Cutts along with 8 of there children were
passengers on board the Hororata which sailed from England and
arrived in New Zealand 10-04-1926 lots of thanks ali Alison Toopi
Before and during the early
part of the war my father was an engineer on the KIAMATA and the
HORORATA, I may have misunderstood the heading on the box two above,
as it shows that the Hororata was built 1942 which could not be
correct, i would think around the 1920's maybe. regards Peter
I'm looking for anyone who
worked on MV Sussex 1950-53 Christopher Welsby
Name is Steve Moorcroft. I
joined P and O GCD in 1973 until 1977 and during that time worked on
the Cumberland and the Wild Auk as Assistant Eng and 4th Eng, plus
another couple of old ex Strick Line boats. Names of engineers that
I remember I sailed with: Keith Webb, Grant Wallace, Andy Monk, Dave
Kear, Graham Sayer, George Jacklin, plus a kiwi called Ticker Tock.
Also some deck officers, Keith Thomas and Andy Coxon Smith. Would be
great to hear from anyone who may remember me. Steve Moorcroft.
Dear Jeffrey, In replying by
e-mail to Peter Loydstrom regarding the "HORORATA", I realised I'd
mentioned things that may be of interest to others: "Two HORORATAS
on the photos page, 1913-1942 & 1942-1967.
Don't know what happened to the first one, but it would be about 29
in 1942(suspect scotch boilers/turbines) so would be puffing a bit
by then. Of course, it may have been lost through enemy action, as
so many fine vessels were, sadly, along with their stalwart crews.
Met the second one a few times
on the NZ coast, in fact think we had a lifeboat race against her
deck officers in Lyttleton, or some such port. We "PAPANUI"
engineers, sponsored by our Captain, Hamish Lawson, were wont to
challenge any company vessel in the same port - as was often the
case, we won, promptly 'dunking' our cox and Chief Officer,
Losers bought the 'grog' -
nostalgic memories, often wonder what happened to all those 'mates',
in particular our Aussie engineer trio (all members of our lifeboat
crew) Syd Thomas, Ben Bolt and Jack Taylor - brown shoes, brown
hats, threepenny bits and 'bastards' !! Regards to all, Ken Sayer
SAMKEY - Again. Further to my
post 29.12.02. Try the Google search engine and type in motor vessel
samkey. You get into the Bermuda triangle.
I'm not going there.
Re: 08.05.03 the Rangitata
forward funnel, that was a dummy and housed the radio room.
Re: The Titantic fourth funnel was a dummy used for storing deck
chairs and probably housed other equipment. Well these dummy funnels
did give the ships of the day a more impressive look.
Re the Samkey. As with most articles on the Internet you have to
take them with a pinch of salt and do your own research.
For what it is worth I hope I
have given someone the incentive to clarify the true history. Mike
Editor: Went and read the
article on the Bermuda Triangle very very interesting and passed on
its details to the editors of the Australiasian UFO magazine. Who
told me there were two USA Navy destroyers that disappeared in the
late 1920's off Venezuela only to reappear moments later in 1969.
They were refitted with modern gyroscopes (USA Scientists having
pioneered much of this work in the "Philadelphia Experiment " in
1942) they then sent both ships back to 1929 (the movie "Final
Countdown" was based on this actual story however the producers of
the movie set the story in the Pacific using an aircraft carrier
called the Nimitz)
Mr Jeffrey Shaw. Thank you for
putting me on line with the New Zealand Shipping CO. Comments, i was
on M.V. Ruahine from 1953 to 1956, and when i saw you had the on
comments line, thought it would be a good to see if i could contact
any one who sailed during that period, i was the ships plumber thank
you Bob Mc Mahon.
Does anyone have a New Zealand
Shipping Company blazer badge, as worn by us cadets circa 1966
-1970, on our blue blazers (part of shoreside uniform). I took mine
off when I went shoreside, and can't find it. It's just that I'm
going to New Zealand to meet an ex-fiance, in the next couple of
months, and wanted to impress!!!!!!
Hi, just a stab in the dark but
my GG Grandparents arrived in Canada in 1883 on the SS Dorset. I
think this ship was from New Zealand or Australia. The ship only
made one trip to Canada during the 1870's and 80'. I have not been
able to find any information on it it was 1715 tons. Do you know
anything about it could you direct me to someone who may?
Best regards and thank you in advance.
Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Ruahine - Built by William
Denny & Brothers Ltd in Dumbarton , Scotland , 1891 , 5975 gross
tons; 430 (bp) feet long ; 50 feet wide. Steam quadruple expansion
engine, single screw. Service speed 131/2 knots.1096 passengers ( 58
FC , 38 SC , 10000 TC ) Built for NZ SC , 1891 , British Flag and
named Ruahine. London-NZ-Service. Sold to Compañía Transatlantica
Line , Spanish Flag , in 1904 and re-named Antonio Lopez . Barcelona
- NY - Caribbean Service. Scrapped in 1946. Fernando Martin
Editor: Been on Holiday for 6 weeks
From end of June to mid Aug
Hi there, NZSCoers. Giles
Goldsbro (previously spelt Goldsbrough)
who was aboard Rakaia in 61 to 63, Piako in 64, and Turakina 65
to 68. Swallowed the proverbial anchor, and went ashore in Japan.
Finally managed to get out of the place in 1993 (couldn't read the
sign for "exit", could I), and am now catching up with old shipmates
I see Bam Pollard's name further up the list, and would love to hear
from him, and any other shipmates from Rakaia and Turakina days
particularly. My e-mail address is "firstname.lastname@example.org", but
physically based in Valencia in Spain. Cheers!
Rakaia was originally the "Empire Windrush", and was probably built
around 1943 or 1944. Giles Goldsbro
Ted Ashworth here vessels of
MV 'Otaio' Port Reg. London. NZSCo
Official No: 187758
BHP: 12400 Engine: Twin 6 Cylinder Doxford
Constuction Date: Unknown
SS 'Kent' Port Reg. London.
Official No: 302543
BHP: Unknown Engine: Steam Turbine
Construction Date: Unknown
SS 'Lincoln' Port Reg. London.
Official No: 300819
BHP: Unknown Engine: Steam Turbine
Construction Date: Unknown
MV 'Huntingdon Port Reg:
London. Federal Line.
Official No: 181898
BHP: 12800 Engine: Twin 6 Cylinder Doxford
Construction Date: Unknown
I sailed on these vessels as
Engineer Cadet rising to 3rd Engineer between 22 Oct 1959 and 16
July 1964. Details are from my Discharge Book. Ted Ashworth
I have a water colour of a ship
flying the NZSCo flag and the red duster, named KANNA. My
Grandfather sailed on it and I'm trying to find some detail. It was
a cargo boat dating perhaps 1890-1930, well decks fore and aft of
the open bridge, red and black funnel, hull colour black, upper deck
white, 8000 tons approximately. I would appreciate any information
you could supply. Kind regards, Rex Brady Wellington NZ
I would like to have some
information regarding the Captain Hobson (previously the Amarpoora)
and the voyage it took in the 1950's transporting British Troops
back from the middle east after the Korean War. Thank you. Any
information regarding where the ship is now, whether it is scrapped
or not, would be beneficial to me, as my father was on that ship.
thank you in advance.
My Grandad Jack Coalbran Sailed on many NZ shipping vessels but the
one of interest is the Hororata of which he was awarded the ships
ensign ( I think this is right i mean the flag) during the second
world war I know that that ship was eventually sunk but I still have
the Flag. I just thought you would like to know.
From Neil Watson ex NZS crew member(2nd. cook & bricklayer) )from
around 1971-1982 would love to hear from anybody who sailed with me
on Haparangi 1971-72. The Old Man was Captain (Willy) Dan, who sadly
died in New Plym. other names from that happy ship are D.E.Evans
(wing commander) steward, Chris Tester (ch,cook) Albert Mason
(lampy) Alex Wight (ch.steward) also sailed on m.v Tongariro, mv
Cumberland, mv Essex ,all the 'wild boats', and all the straths, the
last being the Strathewe to the Falklands before redundancy in 82.
wonderful ships, wonderful shipmates, wonderful time. love to hear
from any kiwi runners who knew me, Neil Watson
Around 1968-69 I served on the
Rangitoto as an engineer and can remember seeing a plate giving the
year she was built as 1948. She was soon to be sold To C Y Tung and
become the Oriental Carnival or Queen. Hope this helps. Brian
Neil Watson x nzsc/p&o chief
cook-1970/1982 Haparangi, Cumberland, Essex, Tongariro, all the
'wild boats' and all the Straths, looking for shipmates. Where are
you Graham Hunt, Wally jolly, (Tongaplonk) D.E. Evans (Haparangi
Essex) and of course, anyone else that knew me
I am in possession of a
publication titled "Ships in Focus - New Zealand and Federal Lines"
written by John Ckarkson & Roy Fenton, Published 1995 by John &
Marion Clarkson, 18 Franklands, Longton, Preston PR4 5PD.
This details the companies and
their fleets since 1873 with photographs of many of the ships,
commencing with the first Tongariro in 1883.
A publication of 89 pages it is
too large for me to submit to the site but I would be prepared to
provide extracts, including photographs, on a progressive basis if
you would like to receive them.
Editor: Love to
Correction to my previous
posting: "RAKAIA" was launched in 1945 as "EMPIRE ABERCORN", by
Harland & Wolff, Belfast, with GRT of 8563, length 457', and beam
63'. Name changed to Rakaia in 1946, and she was scrapped in Hong
Kong in 1971. These details courtesy of Mariners List
(www.mariners-l.co.uk) which contains a lot of interesting stuff.
"EMPIRE WINDRUSH" was a war prize, seized in Kiel in 1945, and then
operated by NZSCo, but under what name, I don't know. Giles Goldsbro
I am interested in knowing how
long it took the MV Rangitoto to travel from Southampton to
Wellington in the 1950s. Was it the fastest ship? If not what was
and how long did it take it? I would be most grateful for any help
on this. Bernard Walton
Hi there, I was a 14 yr old
passenger on the Rangitoto in 1952. From Curacao to Southampton.
Great ship. Am writing an autobiographical novel, need some
technical specs on the Rangitoto. Eric Irausquin
My Great Aunt Beatrice CRINAGE
suppposedly travelled to emigrated from England to new Zealand in
1913 on a ship caled the RUAHINE. If you have any passenger lists
for this voyage or details of the type of ship or a photo I would
much appreciate the information. Martyn Peart
My father Hugh Scott Munro was
Chief Engineer with New Zealand Shipping Company until 1983.He is
retired and living in Llysfaen, North Wales. If you would like to
get in touch please send me a message and I will pass it on. Finlay
Steve O'Connell here - I was a
Navigating Cadet on 'Otaio' betweem October 1974 and July 1975. I
shared a cabin with Bob Foster and Rob? although people may remember
us because we all decided to grow beards. Anyone around that
remembers the Cadet bar being built, please get in contact
Andrew "Chris" Christie, Deck
Cadet on Otaio from '71 to '73, then transferred to Hinakura. It was
"The Days of the Great Upheaval" and on return to UK I was banished
to The Persian Gulf on a Strick ship and things were never quite the
I joined with Mitch Mitchell,
Phil Bennet, Taffy Jenkins, Mark Underwood, Neil McGovern and I
think 2 others whose names escape me. It would be good to hear from
anyone who can remember anything about those days .. Andrew "Chris"
Hi found your site by accident
wow it sure brings back the memories sailed on a lot of ships over a
9 year period but the Rangatiki had to be the best done 2 trips
between june 61 thru feb 62 was first class waiter plus I had a
couple of jacket jobs Pursers steward fruit king and ice boy for the
barmen will share info and photos with anyone who was on the Tiki at
the same time did Kiwi about 8 times also sailed on shaw savill and
blue star. Stan Dingwall
Mr Shaw, having only just found
this site I am very pleased and greatful for all the work you put
into it. I notice that some of comments are "where are you" pleas,
so here is mine. I sailed on the Hinikura between Jan. 67. and Nov.
Len Bruss was Chief steward, Harry Ratcliff was the tiger, Peter
Bennett (me) eng, steward and Peter Ceary was off, steward
I have found Harry and believe
Len and Peter are both in New Zealand. If your out there please get
in touch. Regards Peter Bennett.
My name is Peter Bennett and I
sailed with NZSCo from Oct 1964 till June 1970.
The ships on which I sailed were:- Pipiriki 3 trips, Hurunui 4
trips, Hinakura 6 trips, Manapouri 1 trip, Mataura 1 trip, Tekoa 1
All their history and in fact
every ship from NZSCo. and Federal Steam Nav Co. can be found in a
book called SHIPS IN FOCUS New Zealand And Federal Lines By John
Clarkson & Roy Fenton ISBN 0 9521179 7 5
Some of the information given
is quite remarkable ie
Built by Sir Raylton Dixon & Co Ltd Middlesborough 1920 9266 gt 470
ft Hurunui had no sisters in either Federal fleet, for whom she was
ordered, or that of the New Zealand company. The two hatches on the
bridge deck are an unusual feature, and these were perpetuated in
the design of subsequent company ships. Hurunui was an early war
loss, torpedoed by U-93 on 14th Oct 1940 in the Western Approaches
whilst on a ballest passage from Newcastle to New Zealand. All but
two of her crew were rescued.
I hope this information is of
some use to you and you can use it to update your website.
Kind regards, Peter.
Editor: Appreciate your words,
I don't have much time to work on the vessel section, I really need
someone else to reconstruct it.
So if someone has the time and can lay it out in excel spreadsheet
and email as an attached file then I will set it up
MV Rangitata info required
We sailed from Liverpool in March 1942 and arrived in Halifax, Nova
Scotia, Canada on March 24, 1942. I was 3 years old and travelled
with my younger brother and our mother who was a Canadian war bride.
My Dad was in the RHLI infantry. Would REALLY appreciate any photo
of ship or contact with other "offspring" of war brides who sailed
on this ship. Thanks. William M. Dukes
Greetings, and thank you for a quick response. I was interested in
getting information about the Rangitata, as I came to NZ on her in
1961, when I was eight years old. Southhampton to Wellington, via
Panama Pitcairn. I think it was her last voyage.? I would love to
have a photo of the Rangitata...and to know what all i can about
her, for my research.. thanking you and best wishes, Gus
p.s. we broke down near Pitcairn , and the captain was Capt
Dear Jeffrey Shaw I do not require my message regarding the S.S.
Surrey and e-mail address to be posted on your website.
Therefore, please would you delete it. Thank you. Dorothy
Editor: Recently an email came in seeking knowledge about whether
there was a replacement for S.S. Surrey NZ Shipping Lines, built
1919, lost 1942. I duly put the request up and advised the
contributor the request was now appearing on the History of NZ
Shipping. You wouldn't read about it but I received a swift reply
asking me to remove said email.
We get 1,500 emails a day, I do this as a
love job so that people can keep in touch. You don't have to be
Einstein to appreciate that the modern / contempory staff at New
Zealand Shipping wouldn't have a clue in respect to answering some
of your questions. That's why we have the History of NZ Shipping so
that questions of this nature can be answered by former staff or
those who have an affinity with the maritime industry.
The truth is out there, its a case of
finding the path of least resistance in order to find it, I thought
this page was such a path.
Yes I'm peeved off, I could have allocated my time to something else
namely my family.
Hello, I am trying to find a
picture of the ship Orari which was built in 1875. If you have any
information on this please let me know. Thank you very much. Shirley
Where can I find full
information on RMS Aorangi that was calling in to NZ ports late 20s
early 30s? Sincerely Colin Townsend
Simon Pickett, My grandfather
was captain of the SS Pipiriki in the early 1920s and held prisoner
of war along with the ship and crew in a civilian war camp during
the first world war. The Pipiriki i believe was formerly called
Lippe and was German, can you confirm this . I have Photos and the
ships log book showing deliveries of cargo to Australia, New York,
etc etc I would be interested to hear about the ships history from
their onwards. My grandfather was William Hicks.
I was on the Steamship Hororata
on its final voyage - they called it 'The Last of the Yellow
Funnels'. Item fo'r'd was as straight as a Gillette blade.
Firstly, the ship was steeped in history; on its maiden voyage it
was torpedoed in the Azores. I actually looked at the ship when the
ship was divided into 'Gunners' 'Horse men'.
But, this voyage was no ordinary adventure! we had TV cameras
recording our voyage to Deep Sound (Yes I have some wonderful photos
of literally 6 ft fish) and would love tell all about the Wanganella
(Including that book which unfortunately I have destroyed.
As Second Electrician, my first voyage to NZ was via the States on
the Cornwall. I have sailed on the Rangitoto (have that doll plus a
Rang tea towel.
Having already written books, I plan to computerize all my memoirs
(+20 volumes + family history), I would be interested in working on
my MN adventures am seriously thinking of doing this phase of my
life. Any interest? Richard
Editor: Just like I did with Ailsa I will do
the same for yourself
I am looking for information as
to when the Rangitata had the Doxford engines fitted? I am quite
sure she was built with Sulzer engines. Also can anyone tell me
where the following ships where scrapped. Rangitata, Haparangi,
Cumberland, Nottingham. Thanks, Bill Nadin.
My father Christopher Welsby
was a refrigeration engineer on MV Sussex between 1954 and 1955. He
is still alive and wants to discover any available records.
He could possibly give the feedback you are seeking?
Please contact me if you are able to help or if we can help you in
any way. Mark Welsby
Editor: The History of New Zealand Shipping is a legacy about New
Zealand and the birth of a great nation. Its for everyone to
contribute and share. My role is simply to put up the information
sure I can get one of the staff to put it up but its not the same,
it's all about love and the passion that you get when you read the
ss PAPANUI built 1943 by
A.Stephen & Sons,Glasgow,sold 1965,scrapped 1965.
mv WHAKATANE built 1954 by A.Stephen & Sons,Glasgow,sold
mv PIAKO built 1962 by A.Stephen & Sons,Glasgow,sold 1969,scrapped
1984.9986 g.t.,5552 n.t.single screw,refrigerated.
ss PAPAROA built 1943 by A.Stephen & Sons,Glasgow,sold and scrapped
ss PIPIRIKI 1944 by A.Stephen & Sons,Glasgow, scrapped1971 Alex
Some additional vessels all
built by A.Stehen & Sons,Glasgow
PIAKO s.s.,Launched as WAR
ORESTES Built 1920 8283 G.T. Torpedoed and sunk 18.5.41
ORARI m.v. Built 1931 10107 G.T.Sold 1958 Scrapped 1971
OPAWA m.v. Built 1931 10107 G.T. Torpedoed and sunk 6.2.42.
KAIKOURA m.v,. Built 1937 1954 Transferred to Trinder Anderson
OPAWA Sail Ship Built 1876 1076 G.T.Sold 1899 Scrapped 1919
PIAKO Sail Ship Built 1876 1076 G.T. Sold 1892 Missing 1900
WANGAUI Sail Ship Built 1877 1077 G.T. Sold 1888 Sunk by U-boat
Reading all the above comments
it takes me back to when i worked for NZS/Federal Line on the
following ships. Rangitata (final voyage) Remuara (maiden voyage),
Essex (in my opinion the best looking ship in the fleet), Sussex,
Haparangi & Nottingham. I know work in the IT industry but for the
children would love to re-live my life aboard these great ships
again. Especially the time spent on the NZ coast and to all my old
girls friends i would like to say Hi and thank you.
Keep up the good work and if
anyone remembers me drop a line.
PS i have photographs of the
Sussex & Essex in the English channel and will gladly forward a copy
to anyone interested. Robin Hedges
I'm surfing the 'net in an
effort to find out as much as I can on m.v. (later RMA) Rangitiki
which was broken up in Spain in 1962. My father, C. Philip "Mick"
Overall was Chef on her for many years having started on her as 2nd.
Cook on her second voyage in 1929, staying with her until the final
voyage to/from New Zealand in May 1962.
If anyone here has any memories
of the 'Tiki and my father, I'd be delighted to hear from you.
Although English, I now live in Texas, my son in Ireland and my
daughter in Australia, and I'd like to get as much of his
grandchildren's heritage down on paper before I too hang up my hat
and cash in. Dad wasn't too big on talking to his sons about his
life on board nor his life in New Zealand. And I believe there must
be many stories that need to be told of the voyages of RMS
Rangitiki. Richard Overall
I joined "Orari" as a junior
engineer in Wellington 16th. Sept. 1953. She had twisted the
Starboard engine crankshaft 25 degrees.
We were 5 weeks alongside while
William Cable Engineering Co. unpinned and advanced the crankshaft,
retimed the engine.
We nursed that engine all the
way back to the U.K. Eventually took her to Falmouth, where Siley
Weirs stripped both engines out of her. Because of the severe damage
to the starboard crankshaft (they assumed most of it had been caused
by the torpedo) they cut the shaft up to remove it
I joined Suffolk in Feb.1954.
as 8th. engineer. G.J.Prisk (Graeme)
Hope you have a great Christmas and a successful New Year!
Ditto to everyone
Dear Mr. Shaw, I just revisited your website and found a message
from a Mr. John Edwards whose father was also a chef on RMS
Rangitiki. I suspect this must have been the gentleman my
father took over from in that capacity, as I have read that Dad
became chef in the early years of WWII.
If Mr. Edwards responds with some good information, I'll be sure to
let you know, as you have provided this very valuable resource for
old seadogs and their families. This is a good thing you are
doing. God bless you. Richard Overall
I am an artist currently
painting the NZSC vessels of the 1950's and 1960's. I have completed
the Ruahine and am now interested in the three Rangi vessel and ask
if you have any reference material. Regards Will Howard